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05-08-2013, 03:42 AM
#842
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Yes, I became an unemployed ALPA pilot the day Comair closed.
So it shouldn't matter if I'm delivering pizzas, flying C-130s, or flying at another regional - I'm still considered an unemployed ALPA Pilot?
Believe me, I would love to check that box... but not if it means having to defend why I didn't just sit at home, collecting welfare, waiting for the Majors to call.
So it shouldn't matter if I'm delivering pizzas, flying C-130s, or flying at another regional - I'm still considered an unemployed ALPA Pilot?
Believe me, I would love to check that box... but not if it means having to defend why I didn't just sit at home, collecting welfare, waiting for the Majors to call.
If you are flying at an airline that is like Comair or better, that is a grey area. I would seek further clarification from someone who actually knows the intent of the question rather than just a line pilot without any direct knowledge.
05-08-2013, 06:10 AM
#843
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For a pilot hired at age 32, $150k for 33 years sounds conservative as an average. And that's only the value of pay---once the B fund (16%) is added and compounded the total "value" of the career is well north of $5M.
For example, using the 2014 pay rates a UA narrowbody first officer (320/738) crosses the $150k/year mark (pay & b fund) at year seven (using 83 credit hours/month) and it's only up from there.
05-08-2013, 06:33 AM
#845
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At the fear of doing math in public.....
For a pilot hired at age 32, $150k for 33 years sounds conservative as an average. And that's only the value of pay---once the B fund (16%) is added and compounded the total "value" of the career is well north of $5M.
For example, using the 2014 pay rates a UA narrowbody first officer (320/738) crosses the $150k/year mark (pay & b fund) at year seven (using 83 credit hours/month) and it's only up from there.
For a pilot hired at age 32, $150k for 33 years sounds conservative as an average. And that's only the value of pay---once the B fund (16%) is added and compounded the total "value" of the career is well north of $5M.
For example, using the 2014 pay rates a UA narrowbody first officer (320/738) crosses the $150k/year mark (pay & b fund) at year seven (using 83 credit hours/month) and it's only up from there.
05-08-2013, 06:36 AM
#846
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Position: 737 CA
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The hiring is currently being done on the CAL side, which needs a out 100 pilots per month for years. Too bad they are not hiring that many. The bases a new hire today would most likely get are Newark and Houston in the 737 or 757/767.
05-08-2013, 06:43 AM
#847
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While pay is being discussed: due to the shortage on the 737, pilots are making more money picking up trips at 200% pay when it's offered. I've flown with FO's that made $15,000 some months and CA's making almost $40,000 per month. I heard the record was $39,000.
05-08-2013, 08:44 AM
#848
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One can work to live or live to work. Seems like a really easy decision to me. But then again I voted no to add pay, JR man, the lousy VACA rules and all the other idiotic inducements to TAFB.
I won't lift a finger to line my pockets until every one of the furloughed bubbas has been recalled and the company is building decent trips and off their sick list crusade. I won't say what I think should have happened the day that thing showed up. It ought to be obvious. But, UAL isn't your daddy's Oldsmobile anymore.
We're supposed to be a union, but as pointed out earlier, I'm delusional.
I won't lift a finger to line my pockets until every one of the furloughed bubbas has been recalled and the company is building decent trips and off their sick list crusade. I won't say what I think should have happened the day that thing showed up. It ought to be obvious. But, UAL isn't your daddy's Oldsmobile anymore.
We're supposed to be a union, but as pointed out earlier, I'm delusional.
05-08-2013, 08:52 AM
#849
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One can work to live or live to work. Seems like a really easy decision to me. But then again I voted no to add pay, JR man, the lousy VACA rules and all the other idiotic inducements to TAFB.
I won't lift a finger to line my pockets until every one of the furloughed bubbas has been recalled and the company is building decent trips and off their sick list crusade. I won't say what I think should have happened the day that thing showed up. It ought to be obvious. But, UAL isn't your daddy's Oldsmobile anymore.
We're supposed to be a union, but as pointed out earlier, I'm delusional.
I won't lift a finger to line my pockets until every one of the furloughed bubbas has been recalled and the company is building decent trips and off their sick list crusade. I won't say what I think should have happened the day that thing showed up. It ought to be obvious. But, UAL isn't your daddy's Oldsmobile anymore.
We're supposed to be a union, but as pointed out earlier, I'm delusional.
05-08-2013, 08:59 AM
#850
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Position: B-777 left
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Congrats ottopilot, I am sure the company is pleased and will keep the pilot group short as long as they can.
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