Saabs

Nope the was merely pointing out the wrong guy got hired....

Lobaeux

I still believe the hardest part is just getting the interview.

Airhoss

True,

Something to keep in mind guys. You've already got the job when you walk into the interview. They wouldn't have called you in if they didn't want to hire you. You're mission during the course of that interview is to hang on to that job.

I think the current crop of applicants is incredibly well qualified. So at least initially I think you'll see a high number of successful applicants. Just like back in 2007.

In 1997 when I got hired at UAL. There were 28 of us invited to interview that day. 7 made it to the sim ride the following day and 4 were hired. we were a mix of military, major airline and other. In the waiting room I spoke to a Fed Ex guy a SWA guy a UPS guy a TWA guy, myself an AWA guy there were Marines, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard and smattering of "others" commuter, frieght and GA guys. They hired a Marine, Myself a TWA Guy and the UPS guy.

I'd be willing to bet that most of us did not have the T-PIC and total time that the average RJ guy interviewing today has. This is due to the stagnation during the last decade. But this pool of ultra experienced guys is going to dry up in a year or two. Then it will back to business as usual with a 10% average success rate. Just a SWAG but that's what I think.

xjtguy

True. Although not as long as back then, the early 90's were a bit of a stagnation period as well. And the "commuters" weren't anywhere near as large back then. So that pool of candidates to draw from in the civilian sector just wasn't as large.

Kind of going on my previous comment, agree. The first year or two will be (on average and excluding the usual other factors) the ultra-experienced. Followed by the very experienced, then simply just experienced.

Can't tell you how many FO's I flew with that would make the comment of "if I could go sideways right into a job at (insert legacy) without ever having to upgrade that would great!!!!!!"

True, it would be great!!!!! But again, barring the usual outside factors that don't involve flight time, it'll be YEARS before even "high time" regional FO's get a flat out cold call from an airline's HR department. Even BEFORE 9/11 it just simply didn't happen. Although NS did mention that the infamous UAL flight scantron flight time form may include FO jet time in the future. It never happened though.

LifeNtheFstLne

You are partially incorrect. I have a few friends interviewing at UAL without any turbine PIC time and though 'experienced' they certainly don't have 5,000+ hours of RJ time. And before you speculate, no, they're not women or minorities. They're sharp, well-networked, and good sticks. I hope we hire them. Knowing our recruitment team fairly well, I'm confident they will choose wisely for UAL going forward and cast a wide net.

xjtguy

The bold parts are key. You only partially comprehended the post.

LifeNtheFstLne

I fully comprehended your post. I just want everyone to apply. If you note from those that posted their stats after receiving an email and a phone call, there is very little (if any) consistency. I'm amazed at how many people won't toss their hat in the ring because they assume they won't be selected. You never know... a human still looks at the apps, not everything is left to the computer. Just a thought.

xjtguy

Not to be rude, but the "other factors" was there for a reason. To mean that those that meet the mins but are not competitive WITHOUT some kind of connection more than likely won't get a call anytime soon.

Thanks, unlike the pre 9/11 method of hiring where it ALL went off the scantron

(mass sarcasm)

jsled

I had 400 TPIC in a 15K lb turboprop when I got hired. You never know.

Sled

Slye

Any interns still waiting on an e-mail or call?