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Old 02-08-2013, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
Pretty close if you were a CAL pilot. Lump sum will be paid in two payments, 60% on 1 Feb and 40% after SLI. But wait, 40% of first payment was with held for pending litigation. Finally, another 40% is held back for taxes.

$10k x 60% = $6k
$6k x 60% = $3.6k
$3.6k x 60% = $2160

Looks like you're short $610 though.
Wouldn't be the first time! Thanks for the info.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:17 PM
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So the website says as a retiree I'm entitled to about $10k. Check for $1650 shows up in the mail. Is the website accurate or am I missing something else here?
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Pretty close if you were a CAL pilot. Lump sum will be paid in two payments, 60% on 1 Feb and 40% after SLI. But wait, 40% of first payment was with held for pending litigation. Finally, another 40% is held back for taxes.

$10k x 60% = $6k
$6k x 60% = $3.6k
$3.6k x 60% = $2160

Looks like you're short $610 though.
Not entirely correct.

The website showed a total value for the lump sum payment: traunch 1 + hold back (for disputes) + traunch 2 (after SLI).

Traunch 1 is 60% of the total - the approx 5% holdback
Traunch 2 is 40% of the total

Traunch 1 is divided into two parts in the event of litigation. 40% was released to us already and 60% was withheld until later in February or early March.

So you received 40% of traunch 1 minus 25% federal bonus tax, 6.2% SS, 1.45 % medicare, 1.95% ALPA, minus state and local taxes if applicable.

Sounds like you were paid correctly to me.
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
Not entirely correct.

The website showed a total value for the lump sum payment: traunch 1 + hold back (for disputes) + traunch 2 (after SLI).

Traunch 1 is 60% of the total - the approx 5% holdback
Traunch 2 is 40% of the total

Traunch 1 is divided into two parts in the event of litigation. 40% was released to us already and 60% was withheld until later in February or early March.

So you received 40% of traunch 1 minus 25% federal bonus tax, 6.2% SS, 1.45 % medicare, 1.95% ALPA, minus state and local taxes if applicable.

Sounds like you were paid correctly to me.

Aren't ALPA dues now 1.90%?
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
Not entirely correct.

The website showed a total value for the lump sum payment: traunch 1 + hold back (for disputes) + traunch 2 (after SLI).

Traunch 1 is 60% of the total - the approx 5% holdback
Traunch 2 is 40% of the total

Traunch 1 is divided into two parts in the event of litigation. 40% was released to us already and 60% was withheld until later in February or early March.

So you received 40% of traunch 1 minus 25% federal bonus tax, 6.2% SS, 1.45 % medicare, 1.95% ALPA, minus state and local taxes if applicable.

Sounds like you were paid correctly to me.
Thanks for clarifying!
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:05 AM
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Thanks Mr. flyr. They said there'd be no math.
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
Aren't ALPA dues now 1.90%?
Not until January 2014.

http://www.alpa.org/Portals/Alpa/Pre...4_10-18-12.htm
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by UalHvy
Apparently 67% of us aren't.
Quit your whining...it's getting old.
I voted no. My gratification will be your reaction when you use our PBS. Have fun with that one. I truly can't wait. Oh and don't give me the work rules garbage. Wait until you use this system.
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I voted no. My gratification will be your reaction when you use our PBS. Have fun with that one. I truly can't wait. Oh and don't give me the work rules garbage. Wait until you use this system.
I use it too and anybody with a rudimentary familiarization of boolean logic and half a brain will do just fine with it...that, and a clear understanding of what your relative seniority can hold.

Eight years after implementation, staffing issues notwithstanding, there are still a few individuals trying to bid SAN turns out of Houston at 70% BES with no fallback bid groups...guess what happens? Hiring qualities have declined dramatically over the last 35 years.

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Old 02-12-2013, 07:06 AM
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If you are junior, you are left with what's left over regardless of PBS or company built lines. If you don't understand it you will also probably not like it. We have the same complaints on our side. I was lucky to be very involved in the PBS training so I understand it very well.

There needs to be some pilot to pilot training once we are all on the new system.
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If you are in the top 10% of a seat/fleet, you like PBS, after that everyone just gets sloppy leftovers.
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