Airway

The 757/767 pilots also fly the 767-400? Isn't the cockpit setup very different? Or is that just my perception..

Lerxst

Very different setup, with very different systems that "appear" to work the same when you throw a switch but do completely different things behind the scenes. Air Demand Systems vs Hydraulic pumps, for example.

Doesnt take long to get used to the display differences, but you cannot land a 767-400 like a 757-200 and vice versa without serious consequences. You can pretty much get away with landing all the 737 variants the same, but woe unto you if you start pulling off the power at 30 feet in a -400, or leave the power in till 10 feet in a 757-200.

SpecialTracking

I gotta ask. What's wrong with power on a 757 till 10'? It's all about technique.

Lerxst

Hard to explain. You really need to check the descent and set the correct attitude by 10' in the -400 before you even think about going to idle, that adds a couple of seconds that you dont need in a 757-200 where the tail rises up in ground effect and you float forever. The -400 is a humility instilling airplane, you just never know what you're going to get the last 10 feet. You gotta be dead straight at touchdown or it shimmies real hard from side to side and hafta get the power off just right or youll crush the spines of the FA's in the back.

We had a lot of troubles getting the 757-200 to autoland in the touchdown zone when we first put winglets on it, its just soo slick. Aviation Partners, Boeing, Smith, and Rolls were all pointing fingers at each other for the reason why. The fix ended up being a rescheduled lower flight idle so it wouldnt keep floating beyond the touchdown zone.

SpecialTracking

It was actually a rhetorical question. I've seen many different ways to land the plane. It's all about the technique. On the other hand, I will never forget when a brand new f/o coming off the Bus chopped the power on a 767-300 at 50'. Never knew the Capt had such quick hands. Good times.

Lerxst

It was always fun getting a 400 trip with a reserve capt who hadn't flown the plane since OE. Good times, indeed!

You're absolutely right about technique, the problem is that only a few guys flew it with enough regularity to even have a technique. The rest TLAR'd it, often with embarrassing results.

Airway

So.. the 757-200/300, 767-200/300, and 767-400 all operated by the same pilots? Why not just throw the 747, airbus, and 737 in there and call it a day?

Kidding aside, I'm surprised. Didn't think they would be operated by the same pilots.

Pilotbiffster

Meh, in the end, it's an airplane.. push forward, things get big, pull back, things get small, pull back too long, things get big again. We don't fix these airplanes, we fly them. If there's a big issue, pull out the flight manual .

uaav8r

.......Well then, maybe this explains why the 767-400 and the 747-400 pay the same.

Pilotbiffster

No, that was a blatant attempt by L-CAL to abrogate seniority during the SLI process .