Dave Fitzgerald

"ALPA just got a positive approval rating by 2/3 of the pilots less then a month ago."

You mean all the RJ pilots in ALPA?

shiznit

Yeah, sure....keep telling yourself that.

More like the FDX pilots who are MUCH happier in ALPA than solo....
The DAL pilots who keep making gains inside AND outside of Section 6
The AK pilots who make near top wages for 737, and seeing a net gain of
20-30 airframes over the next 4 years.
The Spirit pilots who were supported in a strike and made HUGE gains with ALPA
HA pilots who have a solid contract, defended very well by ALPA through a sham bankruptcy, and now growing and steady advancement and hiring for their pilots.
...and though its NOT nearly enough, the UCAL CBA that will FINALLY get the road to recovery started for UAL pilots and improve the CAL pilots lives considerably also.


OR

The Comair pilots who took 3 rounds of concessions and still shut down
The Pinnacle pilots who are about to take 9% pay cuts and see their list cut by 2/3
ExpressJet pilots (UAL side) who will probably see their flying and jobs cut to accommodate the new ALPA negotiated UCAL scope clause and the likely reduction of airframes and block hours.

Who has more reason to approve of ALPA?

Dave Fitzgerald

I guess I missed all the support Moak gave us this last year. Only way to get even a letter out of him was to go to AFLCIO and shame him into it. Embarrassing.

UAL SUX

[QUOTE=LAX Pilot;1324639]
Which caused/lengthened my furlough, wrecked me financially, and will make me fly 5 years past my planned retirement age and into my old age to make up for it.

UAL SUX

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LAX Pilot

[QUOTE=UAL SUX;1325328]All good points, you are correct.

paokgate4

New in house union is the biggest mistake possible,
The union is you, if you don't like what you see then fix it, get involved , serve etc......

Blame yourselves not others.

You need to put all differences aside. Take a step backwards, organize the team with a common goal and take as many possible Alpa national positions as you can


Ex Alpa member

oldmako

The TA's approval was much less an approval of ALPA than you imply. There are thousands of reasons individuals pulled the yes lever and opted out of the fight. I'd bet many of them had zero confidence in ALPA to improve the TA, and simply caved. That's not an endorsement.

That's just my two cents. I voted no based on the merits of the TA. My problems are with the leadership and mechanics, not the concept.

Dave Fitzgerald

I'm betting beeker isn't CO or UAL..

Let me rephrase, What has ALPA National positively done for UAL in the last decade? Aside from obstruction and sit on your hands?