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Old 12-17-2012, 06:29 PM
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Section 6 - Seniority
6-A General
6-A-1 A Pilot shall be placed and shall retain his relative seniority position on the United Pilot
Seniority List (the “Seniority List”) effective on the date of hire as a Pilot with the Company. A
Pilot shall remain on the Seniority List from such date except as provided in this Agreement.



The above is cut and pasted from the new JCBA. Does this mean the SLI is already done? The UAL and CAL sides both voted on it.

Please don't flame me for this, but this is from the contract. I won't argue one way or another how it should be done.

Maybe JP was so busy trying to write LOA 25, he forgot to read the fine print...........
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:40 PM
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Section 6 - Seniority
6-A General
6-A-1 A Pilot shall be placed and shall retain his relative seniority position on the United Pilot
Seniority List (the “Seniority List”) effective on the date of hire as a Pilot with the Company. A
Pilot shall remain on the Seniority List from such date except as provided in this Agreement.



The above is cut and pasted from the new JCBA. Does this mean the SLI is already done? The UAL and CAL sides both voted on it.

Please don't flame me for this, but this is from the contract. I won't argue one way or another how it should be done.

Maybe JP was so busy trying to write LOA 25, he forgot to read the fine print...........
We should do SLI randomly just to make things interesting. Just put all the names is a spreadsheet and hit a button and they get scrambled....
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To some like EWRGuppyFO it is already a foregone conclusion. It will be relative seniority and that is it.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:27 PM
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To some like EWRGuppyFO it is already a foregone conclusion. It will be relative seniority and that is it.
LOLZ. Not going to happen... That's not in ALPA merger policy and clearly doesn't work with the aircraft ratios...
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So the 85' hires at CAL should just help themselves to the widebody seats at UAL then????
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So the 85' hires at CAL should just help themselves to the widebody seats at UAL then????
The '85 hires at CAL already hold widebody!
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:28 AM
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The '85 hires at CAL already hold widebody!
Yeah but now there will be THREE times more wide body positions available!
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LOLZ. Not going to happen... That's not in ALPA merger policy and clearly doesn't work with the aircraft ratios...
It may not be ALPA merger policy; however, most recent ALPA mergers have strongly resembled a relative list with a couple of exceptions. If this goes to arbitration, and my guess is it probably will, expect something close to relative. Just my .02
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It may not be ALPA merger policy; however, most recent ALPA mergers have strongly resembled a relative list with a couple of exceptions. If this goes to arbitration, and my guess is it probably will, expect something close to relative. Just my .02
I see it coming out fairly relatively, with junior UAL guys getting a bit of a bump upward due to their longevity of ACTIVE service over the same relative CAL pilots. There will be some other factors that affect the placement by small percentages ie..career expectations. I don't see a windfall in the cards for either group, regardless of what ALPA merger policy is.

Don't get all ****y...its just an opinion.
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To some like EWRGuppyFO it is already a foregone conclusion. It will be relative seniority and that is it.

Easy Beavis. I'm not arguing one way or the other. I already had my say in the one thing I could say on. Didn't go my way. Besides, didn't you already get the pdf file that had the relative seniority already figured out for both airlines?
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