12/13/2012 Roadshow - IAH
12-13-2012, 02:03 PM
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12/13/2012 Roadshow - IAH
Just got back from the 12/13/2012 IAH roadshow at the airport Marriott.
A few scope questions, a few strategy questions, a few sincere thanks comments.
Just an unscientific wag based upon personal conversations, observation and questions but...50 to 60% in favor, 40 to 50% against.
Sparsely attended until the food showed up.
A few scope questions, a few strategy questions, a few sincere thanks comments.
Just an unscientific wag based upon personal conversations, observation and questions but...50 to 60% in favor, 40 to 50% against.
Sparsely attended until the food showed up.
12-13-2012, 02:44 PM
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Just got back from the 12/13/2012 IAH roadshow at the airport Marriott.
A few scope questions, a few strategy questions, a few sincere thanks comments.
Just an unscientific wag based upon personal conversations, observation and questions but...50 to 60% in favor, 40 to 50% against.
Sparsely attended until the food showed up.
A few scope questions, a few strategy questions, a few sincere thanks comments.
Just an unscientific wag based upon personal conversations, observation and questions but...50 to 60% in favor, 40 to 50% against.
Sparsely attended until the food showed up.
Thanks for the update
12-13-2012, 06:33 PM
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Pilot group polling, request the NMB re-engage the parties...did say the NMB views this TA as a fair, equitable agreement and would not be "happy" if ratification fails...NMB thinks in terms of "industry standard" regarding entire package, not individual issues..."leading" or "lagging" individual issues are irrelevant in the eyes of the NMB...minimum of 6 to 9 months just for re-engagement agreement without "icing"...sidebar discussion with JNC indicated NMB may "ice" to "let the pilots think about it for awhile"...if NMB "ices," probably 6 to 12 month timeframe...not a "snowball's chance in hell" of a release/cooling off/strike due to airline size (domestic market share)...release to a PEB a remote possibility only...resulting terms could be worse...while polling would show strong and weak issues, everything would technically be off the table if ratification fails...failed ratification "does not reset just the weak points"...NMB is sympathetic to UCH position that lower value AMR pilot agreement be included in any renegotiation (was not ratified at AIP point)...
There's a bunch more notes, but that's about all on possibilities and strategy that I can read from my scribbles.
12-13-2012, 06:42 PM
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The following is a quick summary of rudimentary notes I took regarding possibilities and forward strategy...
Pilot group polling, request the NMB re-engage the parties...did say the NMB views this TA as a fair, equitable agreement and would not be "happy" if ratification fails...NMB thinks in terms of "industry standard" regarding entire package, not individual issues..."leading" or "lagging" individual issues are irrelevant in the eyes of the NMB...minimum of 6 to 9 months just for re-engagement agreement without "icing"...sidebar discussion with JNC indicated NMB may "ice" to "let the pilots think about it for awhile"...if NMB "ices," probably 6 to 12 month timeframe...not a "snowball's chance in hell" of a release/cooling off/strike due to airline size (domestic market share)...release to a PEB a remote possibility only...resulting terms could be worse...while polling would show strong and weak issues, everything would technically be off the table if ratification fails...failed ratification "does not reset just the weak points"...NMB is sympathetic to UCH position that lower value AMR pilot agreement be included in any renegotiation (was not ratified at AIP point)...
There's a bunch more notes, but that's about all on possibilities and strategy that I can read from my scribbles.
Pilot group polling, request the NMB re-engage the parties...did say the NMB views this TA as a fair, equitable agreement and would not be "happy" if ratification fails...NMB thinks in terms of "industry standard" regarding entire package, not individual issues..."leading" or "lagging" individual issues are irrelevant in the eyes of the NMB...minimum of 6 to 9 months just for re-engagement agreement without "icing"...sidebar discussion with JNC indicated NMB may "ice" to "let the pilots think about it for awhile"...if NMB "ices," probably 6 to 12 month timeframe...not a "snowball's chance in hell" of a release/cooling off/strike due to airline size (domestic market share)...release to a PEB a remote possibility only...resulting terms could be worse...while polling would show strong and weak issues, everything would technically be off the table if ratification fails...failed ratification "does not reset just the weak points"...NMB is sympathetic to UCH position that lower value AMR pilot agreement be included in any renegotiation (was not ratified at AIP point)...
There's a bunch more notes, but that's about all on possibilities and strategy that I can read from my scribbles.
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