intrepidcv11

So I hear a lot of drum banging about hot headed NO voters having no logic. Well pal look in the mirror cause you are right there in the YES side. Life will move along no matter what and really want to put this thing to bed.

That said if an individual like you sneers that my NO vote was motivated by a upgrade greed he/she will get told in a very crude way to go to Hades. And if it is in the office then thankfully it will be a long quite leg after that. Btw I plan to stay right here in the Guppy rt seat no matter how this thing turns out.

CousinEddie

Dope (wait, now it's individual)? Go to Hades? Wow, touched a nerve there. And logic. Being convinced that a rejection will lead to a better deal and recover what is lost while waiting? Real logical pal. Not much business, economics, logic, or common sense being taught at America's flight schools I guess. I don't blame you for wanting more though with this "professional" management team at the helm. Surely, they will bring in floods of new revenue. Besides, C2000 was a great two years over here. And, we didn't have to worry about any cornerstones when the next contract was "negotiated."

Regularguy

"No sir we will find out who is right in the next 3-5 years."

First if this doesn't pass the issue won't be scope, UCH has the tools it needs now for scope to fly new 76 jets. So don't think you have held anything back from them.

Second the issue isn't a seat grab by the sCAL pilots, it is the inevitable delay of the ISL which will cause serious harm to the sUAL pilots. So the sCALites really won't be effected by a delay here.

Third, you think you are delaying the "reserve" hell of the TA, but I can assure you living under the current sCAL work rules for another two years (which is what I predict will be the minimal time before a new TA can be accomplished and ratified, OK maybe a year and a half)will make any new TA seem like an improvement.

Oh and that billion plus dollars "retro pay" some are holding out for? let's just say after returning the TA's insult of a "bonus" to management, missing out on 20+ percent increase in wages and the time value for money (not to mention losing various "incentive" pay items to cover other "improvements" in the TA) I believe you will actually be giving back at least $500 million 2012 dollars to Jeff.

Who's right, yes or NO voters? Actually it will depend upon your perspective, not the outcome of this vote.

intrepidcv11

It becomes 'individual' when guys like you continue to beat the dead horse of the seat grab conspiracy. In my eyes that makes you as worthless as the the NO voters that refer to YES voters as wearing knee pads. Their hyperbole drowns their arguement in cr@p just as it does to yours.

CousinEddie

Conspiracy? Explain the actions of your MEC chair for the last couple of years then. I actually had a rather young looking CAL pilot (no voter of course) tell me not to be concerned with an expiring TPA because "we will be standing right there with you." Sure you will. Since the TA doesn't meet his standards, I doubt a long stay in the 73 right seat will either.