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Old 12-11-2012, 02:51 PM
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When all the noise its removed, is anyone proud of this TA? If it ratified, do you report for your next id with your head held high, or looking over your shoulder avoiding eye contact? My prediction,

100% regret: 85% participation
Absolutely, I report with my head held high. From my analysis this TA is a positive overall and the stigma of bankruptcy will be officially behind us. Emotionally I am ready to put the last decade behind. If the TA passes I can, without reservation, say I am proud of our accomplishment.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
When all the noise its removed, is anyone proud of this TA? If it ratified, do you report for your next id with your head held high, or looking over your shoulder avoiding eye contact? My prediction,

100% regret: 85% participation
My head is held high regardless but no I am not proud of this ta.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
When all the noise its removed, is anyone proud of this TA? If it ratified, do you report for your next id with your head held high, or looking over your shoulder avoiding eye contact? My prediction,

100% regret: 85% participation
100% Head Held High if this passes. Considering quad-party negotiations with different goals, a weak economy, possible fiscal cliff, etc etc etc, getting a TA that's worth $1 Billion or so the first year alone to this pilot group is a job VERY well done by our JNC.

There are gets in this deal that we haven't accomplished since Blue Skies.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
100% Head Held High if this passes. Considering quad-party negotiations with different goals, a weak economy, possible fiscal cliff, etc etc etc, getting a TA that's worth $1 Billion or so the first year alone to this pilot group is a job VERY well done by our JNC.

There are gets in this deal that we haven't accomplished since Blue Skies.
I agree. So much criticism from those that did so little to produce the final product. Whether you vote "yes" or "no" the least people could do is act civil towards one another and extend a much deserved "thank you" for those that worked so hard to get what we got under these circumstances.
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Originally Posted by iama570
Absolutely, I report with my head held high. From my analysis this TA is a positive overall and the stigma of bankruptcy will be officially behind us. Emotionally I am ready to put the last decade behind. If the TA passes I can, without reservation, say I am proud of our accomplishment.
nevermind......

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Old 12-11-2012, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by syd111
My head is held high regardless but no I am not proud of this ta.
I can fully respect that.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
100% Head Held High if this passes. Considering quad-party negotiations with different goals, a weak economy, possible fiscal cliff, etc etc etc, getting a TA that's worth $1 Billion or so the first year alone to this pilot group is a job VERY well done by our JNC.

There are gets in this deal that we haven't accomplished since Blue Skies.
Notice I said if all the noise is removed. Now the fiscal cliff factors into this contract?

We paid dearly in bankruptcy to keep a semblance of a qol, and now we lose more. You have to go back to blue skies for a comparative "get?" That speaks volumes.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:47 PM
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if it passes, the TRO is removed. 60/40 passes. 94% participation...we'll see in 4 days. Best of luck to all.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo300
if it passes, the TRO is removed. 60/40 passes. 94% participation...we'll see in 4 days. Best of luck to all.
How quickly could the company get a tro reinstated? Just sayin.

But yes, best of luck to us all. Whether we vote yes or no, we own it together.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:41 PM
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Sled, maybe your viewpoint, but believe me all the CAL guy I fly with and know are NOT salivating over this TA. It misses the mark for the L-CAL group in key areas. Even our reps have stated the same publicly. What we feared has and will most likely come to fruition by not being able to provide feedback to the MEC before it was sent to the joint pilot group. UA pilots will overwhelming vote this TA into passage. I hope I'm wrong, but I've yet to hear a "no" vote from my numerous friends over at UA and they quite frankly are fearful of the future for them (parking jets, lack of movement, trailer park wages etc..)if it does not pass. I understand and can appreciate the concern! That said, don't parade this TA as a big plus for L-CAL for it is NOT!
didn't your reps pass this TA by 64%??


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