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11-09-2012, 07:08 PM
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11-09-2012, 07:17 PM
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Stop focusing on pay, just one of the cornerstones that is severely broken.
Just vote no!
Delta $123,125,126
Not even close. Straight from apc and much more realistic where everybody's seniority is.
11-09-2012, 07:25 PM
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Well, its still a lot of money, and way more than I'm getting paid. I hope you all pass it. Year one pay for new hires is actually enough to where one can live without pinching pennies. If it passes, I'm applying.
11-09-2012, 07:30 PM
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If it passes there will be no hiring for a long time due to the scope relaxation. This is why there is much more then stupid pay rates.
11-09-2012, 07:42 PM
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11-09-2012, 07:47 PM
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Maybe not "way" higher, but if you go strictly by a wage chart, looks like you are right. However DAL's retirement contribution gives them a higher overall hourly compensation.
DALPA TA Brief, SWA Comparison
Based on productivity though SWA may have the opportunity for higher W2s.
DALPA TA Brief, SWA Comparison
Based on productivity though SWA may have the opportunity for higher W2s.
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11-09-2012, 09:33 PM
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Is this worth the rates? If we are offered this scope are the rates worth it? L-UAL has already demonstrated what weight scope carries once before.
Would you guys be willing to have the contract now if there are these scope reliefs:
1. 400 70 seaters limited to 900 nm range?
2. 2016 sunset for unlimited 50 seaters. Not 50 seat airframes but 90 seaters configured with 50 flown by Skywest?
3. Basically park all Airbus, 737-700s over the next 2-4 years; after 2 year furlough protection?
Be careful what UCH pilots need now. UAL claims of right sizing for a merger will be nothing compared to right sizing for all RJ domestic feed.
Would you guys be willing to have the contract now if there are these scope reliefs:
1. 400 70 seaters limited to 900 nm range?
2. 2016 sunset for unlimited 50 seaters. Not 50 seat airframes but 90 seaters configured with 50 flown by Skywest?
3. Basically park all Airbus, 737-700s over the next 2-4 years; after 2 year furlough protection?
Be careful what UCH pilots need now. UAL claims of right sizing for a merger will be nothing compared to right sizing for all RJ domestic feed.
11-09-2012, 09:51 PM
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Is this worth the rates? If we are offered this scope are the rates worth it? L-UAL has already demonstrated what weight scope carries once before.
Would you guys be willing to have the contract now if there are these scope reliefs:
1. 400 70 seaters limited to 900 nm range?
2. 2016 sunset for unlimited 50 seaters. Not 50 seat airframes but 90 seaters configured with 50 flown by Skywest?
3. Basically park all Airbus, 737-700s over the next 2-4 years; after 2 year furlough protection?
Be careful what UCH pilots need now. UAL claims of right sizing for a merger will be nothing compared to right sizing for all RJ domestic feed.
Would you guys be willing to have the contract now if there are these scope reliefs:
1. 400 70 seaters limited to 900 nm range?
2. 2016 sunset for unlimited 50 seaters. Not 50 seat airframes but 90 seaters configured with 50 flown by Skywest?
3. Basically park all Airbus, 737-700s over the next 2-4 years; after 2 year furlough protection?
Be careful what UCH pilots need now. UAL claims of right sizing for a merger will be nothing compared to right sizing for all RJ domestic feed.
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