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Old 10-31-2012, 08:23 PM
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The Flight Plan October 2012
Upcoming Planned Changes From Crew Resources
Winter International Schedule 2012/2013 - Redeployment
As a result of reliability issues on the 747-400, we intend to consolidate the ORD 400 flying into SFO. We have issued a Notice of Proposed Decision Making (NPDM) as outlined by the contract and will work with the ALPA System Scheduling Committee (SSC) to formulate a plan for the ORD 400 base. After the NPDM process is complete, my expectation is that we will need to surplus ORD 400 pilots.
Here are the planned changes.
 ORD/NRT will move from an s-UA 400 to an s-UA 777 in January
 ORD/HKG/SIN will move from an s-UA 400 to an s-UA 777 at the end of
March
 SFO/KIX will move from an s-UA 777 to an s-UA 400
 SFO/LHR#1 will move from an s-UA 777 to an s-UA 400
 SFO/FRA#2 will move from an s-UA 777 to an s-UA 400
 NRT/HNL will move from an s-UA 777 to an s-UA 400
As previously announced, the LAX base will lose two thirds of its 777 flying.
 LAX/NRT will move from an s-UA 777 to an s-CO 787 in January
 LAX/PVG will move from an s-UA 777 to an s-CO 787 in March
These changes are long term. The transition agreement prohibits us from involuntarily reducing the size of the LAX base. Therefore, we are looking into additional 777 flying for LAX pilots. A final plan has not yet been formulated. However, we are looking at “W” flying utilizing the LAX/LHR flight, deadheading to another base/station to cover flying and potentially utilizing TDYs from LAX to other 777 bases.
2013 Summer Schedule/Vacancy Bids
Based on preliminary planning, we expect summer 2013 flying levels to be similar to summer 2012. The exception to this is the 767 will be down summer 2013 vs. 2012. As previously announced, 50 737-900ERs will replace the less fuel efficient 757s. Delivery of the 737s is expected to commence after the 2013 summer peak.
We are evaluating the impact of the reduced 767 flying in the summer of 2013 and the arrival of the 737’s. From a basing perspective, we will continue to evaluate the need to grow the 320 IAH and JFK bases. We expect to complete domestic aircraft redeployment by February 2013.
To prepare for 2013 pilot retirements, we just issued vacancy bids to take advantage of available training slots in December. We have posted bids for 744 CA/FO, 777 FO and 320 FO. While more analysis needs to be done the current plan does include recalls. Watch for more details in the coming months.
Retirements
Commencing in December of 2012, mandatory retirements will again be a reality. Below is a snapshot of the retirements. The “Total Active Pilot Retirements “ column excludes those pilots who are on extend leaves and are not deemed a flyer for staffing purposes. As pilots come on/off active status, the numbers will change.
Year
Total Pilot Retirements
Total Active Pilot Retirements
Active Pilot Retirements by Fleet/Seat
2012
5
4
320CA-2
767CA-1
777CA-1
2013
174
171
320CA-26 320FO-3
767CA-38 767FO-3
777CA-45 777FO-17
747CA- 28 747FO-11
2014
182
143
320CA-22 320FO-1
767CA-30 767FO-4
777CA-43 777FO-9
744CA-23 744FO-11
2015
169
129
320CA-33 320FO-3
767CA-8 767FO-6
777CA-32 777FO-10
744CA-27 744FO-10
2016
142
136
320CA-25 320FO-10
767CA-36 767FO-10
777CA-24 777FO-7
744CA-12 744FO-12
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:52 PM
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While more analysis needs to be done the current plan does include recalls. Watch for more details in the coming months.
About 'effin time.
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Translation. We are building a case to park the 400.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:33 AM
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Translation. We are building a case to park the 400.
Yep.

Standard CAL flt ops mentality, shrink to profitability.

These people can't leave soon enough.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Zonker
Yep.

Standard CAL flt ops mentality, shrink to profitability.

These people can't leave soon enough.
Who says they are leaving? I wouldn't. Until there is some major shake up, it's gonna be status quo. Maybe a resounding NO vote would be a start.
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They're not leaving. That's the problem. Phred has his merry band of losers groomed and ready to go after he pushes this latest pile of dung on the pilots and rides off with his millions.

Voting no.
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Originally Posted by Zonker
They're not leaving. That's the problem. Phred has his merry band of losers groomed and ready to go after he pushes this latest pile of dung on the pilots and rides off with his millions.

Voting no.
I will take a look at the final document....leaning so far to a NO..if we even get the opportunity to vote.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:42 AM
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How many 400's does UAL have?
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Airfleets.net says 24 active.
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At our peak (2000), we had 44, plus 2 classics. (-200s).
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