syd111

Now I'm an esop pusher, I have been around for a while sorry thats a problem for you. Kind of hard to tell what you are talking about, is that cause you have not been around long enough, lol. You have gone from a don't vote on one issue to an esop pusher, just keep jumping around. By the way what the hell is an esop pusher.

A320

At least you admit that nothing else matters if "Full Retro" doesn't satisfy the way you calculate it. By the way. For the benefit of everyone please enlighten us all on how you would calculate full retro. Is it based on what DAL is now paid or what they have been paid for the last 3 years. Do you have a different retro schedule for the CAL and UAL amendable dates? How does your up or down vision include those on furlough, voluntary or otherwise. How about those on LOA who didn't earn at UAL? "How about those on MIL leave? How do you feel about the MEC dividing it up similar to the Bond Allocation?

These are all kinds of things you should consider just on the retro issue alone but you will never read that info unless the first two words are FULL RETRO.



An ESOP Pusher is one of those who justified huge pay, work rule, retirement and a B Scale Shuttle concessions in exchange for stock you couldn't sell till retirement which was over priced to begin with just so that our ESOP brainchild MEC chairman could put his boots up on the desk in the boardroom. All this while denying everyone the ability to vote on that turd in 94.

Are you one of those?

syd111

Yes 320 that is what I said, how I figure it should not matter that much to you, but yes it is figured. No I would never leave it up to the mec to divide it up. No I was not an esop pusher but feel free to call me one or any other name or group you like to come up with.

A320

I just asked if you we're one of those. Don't get so defensive. Those ESOP pushers were single issue types with a hell with the rest of the issues mentality.

My entire point is to read the entire TA(which doesn't exist yet) before you judge it. That also goes for those who would vote yes if they read Full Retro and disregard the rest. If you aren't willing to do that then that says a lot about you. That's all. I imagine a 63-64 yr old would sell out the rest for full retro since time is short.

syd111

Yes the ta that doesn't exist. No I am not going to vote yes if full retro and nothing else. I know you don't like it but I am tired of this being dragged out everytime and that is why I will start at full retro and if not there will vote no. No I am not 63-64 year old and have never sold out the rest and won't start now. I always get defensive with the name calling bs thats all.

By the way I really don't think we will see a ta anytime soon, again just an opinion. Lets hope I am wrong on that one.

liquid

I believe IAH went more junior, early to mid 2005 holding Captain.

Airhoss

syd,

I was just curious no slight intended.

Airhoss

You got all that from me asking syd if he voted no on C-200 because of retro??? WOW.....

syd111

Np Hoss, hope all is well at your end.

Captain Bligh

This "retro vs. sign bonus" may be a socialist's dream come true!

Pathetic.