gettinbumped

Reading the UAL MEC weekly update, it became extremely clear why UAL doesn't seem to be interested in recalling any of our furloughed pilots.

It was stated that starting in Spring 2013, UAL would be replacing the LUAL 757's with the 50 new 737-900ER's that were ordered. The phase out would be complete within 2 years, and all but 15 of the 757's would be gone.

I'm too lazy to bother to look up the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure LUAL has 97 757's right now.

97-15 = 82.
82 replaced with 50 (smaller) = FUPM

Let's make a HUGE assumption and say that we will have a contract and SLI in place by the time the LUAL 757's are all replaced, and the remaining CAL 737-900's all go into the same pot. Any growth that LCAL pilots THOUGHT they were going to have looks like it just went bye bye, as the other 100 737-9Max's won't be coming around until AT LEAST 2018.

Makes those two pilots who were standing behind ole Jeffey at the order announcement look like even BIGGER fools for drooling all over themselves about these "wonderful new planes".

Daytripper

Been hearing this for over a year. About the time the winglet debate started.

I don't know of any pilot over here that thought that the 73 orders were going to produce any growth. Just replacements.

Just theatrics. Every airline has a few stooges who will gladly pose with the CEO's. What they really thought, or if they had their middle finger extended in their pocket is anybody's guess.

CHAIRMAN

sUAL does not have 737-900 rates. If the JCBA does not pass not sure they fly them without agreed pay rates..

cadetdrivr

After the 747-400 new equipment pay fiasco in '89 when the union successfully held the aircraft hostage there is a section in the current UAL contract that uses a ratio (based on MTGW) to determine the hourly rate. And that's an issue...the 737-900 is lighter than the 757 so unless a rate is negotiated the pay will be less than the 757 although the seating is nearly identical.

uaav8r

Basic math or perhaps astronomy. Indeed, all of the stars and planets are coming into alignment over the next few months in regard to all of this. Some planets may fair better than others when it's all said and done. But, for us L-UAL types there is also a great possibility that Uranus might take a pounding.

Airhoss

As long as it's Uranus and not mine it's all good right? That is kind of the attitude I've been getting form some here.