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12-18-2012, 06:21 PM

#391

liquid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SOTeric

Know your GD contract so the next time they feel like throwing it in the trash you can call them on it.

Or, is that against the "culture".

Oh believe me I KNOW my contract and I enforce it. It's Fred's culture to throw it out the window, remember who's in charge of flight ops. Fred will direct scheduling to throw it out, he has done it on many occasions and will continue to do so. Guaranteed Fred has instructed them on the phrase "Order to Fly"

We have a great many pilots who don't know the current contract nor will they invest any time learning the new contract.

12-18-2012, 07:33 PM

#392

Mitch Rapp05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SOTeric

Know your GD contract so the next time they feel like throwing it in the trash you can call them on it.

Or, is that against the "culture".

Oh, you have a lot to learn!

12-18-2012, 07:34 PM

#393

colead3

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Joined APC: Sep 2009

Position: CRJ 700/FO-Furloughed

Posts: 76

Ok.. Ladies.. Back on topic please.. Or please feel free to start another topic on another page..

12-19-2012, 09:41 AM

#394

workingforfree

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Agree, I understand the many emotions involved and respect them all.

Has anyone heard from CV or word from the training centers yet regarding furloughs suddenly wanting to come back because of the TA?

I would guess he and his team are busy over the next few weeks deciding if they need to hire or not.

12-19-2012, 09:55 AM

#395

LAX Pilot

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Originally Posted by workingforfree

They have 10 years to come back, so I think they are going to wait for ISL and then maybe even wait until they could hold a line on something before they come back.

I think there will be new hires coming soon, but I don't have any proof.

12-19-2012, 10:00 AM

#396

workingforfree

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LAX Pilot

I agree with you LAX, why would anyone rush back if they have a job (and possibly family) to support. I know I would wait until after SLI and even further until I could hold a line in the base of my choice. Of course that is if they have jobs, and judging by the bypass (I know it wasn't a recall---I am referring to "bypassing" the job earlier this year)rate, most seem to not need a job right now. Why take a risk for a seniority number one already has?

Just my opinion and I hope it ends up being true to be honest, I know the result will be a stagnant existence on the bottom of the seniority list for years as they fill from the middle and above me, but that is a risk I will take.

Hopefully the next few weeks will offer some info in regards to hiring!

12-19-2012, 10:05 AM

#397

LAX Pilot

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Originally Posted by workingforfree

I agree with you LAX, why would anyone rush back if they have a job (and possibly family) to support. I know I would wait until after SLI and even further until I could hold a line in the base of my choice. Of course that is if they have jobs, and judging by the bypass (I know it wasn't a recall---I am referring to "bypassing" the job earlier this year)rate, most seem to not need a job right now. Why take a risk for a seniority number one already has?

Just my opinion and hope to be honest, I know the result will be a stagnant existence on the bottom of the seniority list for years as they fill from the middle and above me, but that is a risk I will take.

Hopefully the next few weeks will offer some info in regards to hiring!

Might as well start building longevity and annual pay increases that go with it. Whatever happens, happens.

12-19-2012, 10:13 AM

#398

workingforfree

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You are correct!

But now I am thinking, why wouldn't a furloughed pilot possible have the same thinking. Oh well.... it's their right to come back first.

Interesting few weeks ahead.

12-19-2012, 10:52 AM

#399

SOTeric

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05

Oh, you have a lot to learn!

Not really. Been dealing with CAL Scedulers for a year, UAL schedulers since 2000, and airline schedulers since 1989.

None have ever thrown my contract "out the window"....they have tried though.