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Old 12-15-2012, 07:22 AM
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I'm not an expert, but work rules and rest rules are rumored to add about 800 pilot positions above the retirements. I'd say that's good news.
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
I'm not an expert, but work rules and rest rules are rumored to add about 800 pilot positions above the retirements. I'd say that's good news.
I agree, and I think there will not be much of an increase in the amount of furloughs interested in returning until the dust settles fully.
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Some of the implementations of work rules cannot be immediately done because we don't have staffing for them, so yes, there will be hiring and there will be off the street hiring because a lot of the UAL furloughees won't likely return right away, if ever.
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Since it looks like the JCBA has passed, how is this expected to affect potential off the street hiring?
I'm wondering if I should concentrate elsewhere or continue with my United application with a realistic expectation.
If you have an interest in working for UAL, (MAN it's good to not have to say L-UAL anymore....) then I would say keep focusing hard, because it looks very much like we will need to hire, and a decent amount, going forward. Best of luck. Hope to see you on line.
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
I'm not an expert, but work rules and rest rules are rumored to add about 800 pilot positions above the retirements. I'd say that's good news.
Incorrect. It will add slightly less than 400 positions. However, coupled with retirements we will be hiring 60/month for the indefinite future.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:06 AM
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Someone on this forum just spoke with CV not even 2 weeks ago and posted dont expect much off the street hiring. I don't see much reason to get all excited, but still making sure my app is ready to go just in case...
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Since it looks like the JCBA has passed, how is this expected to affect potential off the street hiring?
How and when will they know how many UAL guys are now coming back? Since the list has been gone through once, is it now up to those guys to come forward at any point they're ready? Is there going to be a deadline of some sort?
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Since it looks like the JCBA has passed, how is this expected to affect potential off the street hiring?
I'm wondering if I should concentrate elsewhere or continue with my United application with a realistic expectation.
Realistically, expect more furloughees to come back which will equal less hiring. Downsizing of UAL 757's wont be offset by new 737's, which will result in surpluses across that fleet. I expect a lot more A320 flying will be scoped out to Skywest or whomever flies the new 76 seaters.

In short, don't hold your breath. You'd be better off trying to go with almost anybody else than UAL. Noxious pilot/management relations. Also bound to be some CAL/UAL animosity over SLI issues, regardless of how it turns out.
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Originally Posted by tailwheel48
Realistically, expect more furloughees to come back which will equal less hiring. Downsizing of UAL 757's wont be offset by new 737's, which will result in surpluses across that fleet. I expect a lot more A320 flying will be scoped out to Skywest or whomever flies the new 76 seaters.

In short, don't hold your breath. You'd be better off trying to go with almost anybody else than UAL. Noxious pilot/management relations. Also bound to be some CAL/UAL animosity over SLI issues, regardless of how it turns out.

So where besides somewhere outside of the industry would you go then?

Every place has a negative.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LifeNtheFstLne
Incorrect. It will add slightly less than 400 positions. However, coupled with retirements we will be hiring 60/month for the indefinite future.
I heard it from the training center. What "correct" info do you have?
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