CAL poolies & Off-the-street hiring rumors
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#12
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1062 UA pilots have not accepted the offer. Some will wait until the last minute but it appears that Nov. is the moving target date for street hiring if UA guys don't accept the job. CV is having a problem getting the final processes approved in regards as to how the combined UA will hire off the street.
This info is current as of Friday.
This info is current as of Friday.
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1062 UA pilots have not accepted the offer. Some will wait until the last minute but it appears that Nov. is the moving target date for street hiring if UA guys don't accept the job. CV is having a problem getting the final processes approved in regards as to how the combined UA will hire off the street.
This info is current as of Friday.
This info is current as of Friday.
#14
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It is the interview format. They are anticipating a flood of applicants, for various reasons that we all know well. So they are trying to have a good screening process to find the best applicants quickly. Since CV hasn't "put out" the official process yet, I don't want to say what it will be like but there were some issues to get worked out. I think the big issues got worked last week. They still have a lot to do but I think airline apps is here to stay.
#16
UAL MEC Blastmail
The following letter to all furloughees who have bypassed a CAL job offer is from the MEC Furlough Coordinator.
The company sent out an update on Tuesday, August 28 to all furloughees on their “Furloughed Pilots” mailing list. I am passing this along in an effort to insure that ALL United furloughees who have bypassed a CAL job offer that may be contemplating the possibility of going to CAL later this year are aware of the class openings currently being offered.
As you are aware the company has made job offers at CAL to all 1,436 United furloughees under the terms of the Merger Transition and Process Agreement. The most junior 248 United furloughees received their CAL offer in July for a fall start. In order to accommodate the number of pilots who accepted these offers, as well as those who came off of bypass and military deferment, classes were added and filled through the end of October 2012. With the attached announcement further classes have been added through the end of the year. The first class of the scheduled fall classes started this past Tuesday, 28 August 2012, and further classes are currently scheduled to start each Tuesday through the end of the year, except for the Tuesday before Thanksgiving and Christmas Day. Each class will be a class of 12. The classes to be filled in November and December 2012 will be filled in seniority order with United Furloughees who come off of bypass or military deferment by notifying Captain V by close of business (16:00 CDT), Monday, 10 September 2012. When coming off of bypass or military deferment please state your availability date in order to be placed in a desired class or a class thereafter that your seniority can hold. If needed, new hires off of the street will be placed in remaining slots in these classes in accordance with the Merger Transition and Process Agreement. Based on anticipated manpower needs at CAL we expect further class offerings to become available at the beginning of 2013 and continue through the Spring.
In closing I wanted to address the other part of the attached update, the announcement by the company that there will be NO recall classes starting at United before the end of the year. This news has been very upsetting to the furloughed pilot group, who were sacrificed to make this merger happen. Despite all efforts by the UAL MEC System Schedule Committee and the MEC Officers to make the company begin the process of returning our Furloughed Pilots to United, the company continues to drag its feet, even knowing that retirements are coming and understaffing has affected the operation this summer. The understaffing problem at United was even highlighted in Captain Jay Heppner’s Labor Day Message: “With chronic under-staffing and numerous other mismanaged aspects of this merger, including last week’s “connectivity problem” that delayed hundreds of flights, combined with seasonal weather, heavy customer demand and other distractions, this past summer was especially challenging.” We find this announcement to be discouraging and short sighted by this “new” management group, and we will continue to do all we can to insist that the company begin the recall process to return our furloughees to United.
The company sent out an update on Tuesday, August 28 to all furloughees on their “Furloughed Pilots” mailing list. I am passing this along in an effort to insure that ALL United furloughees who have bypassed a CAL job offer that may be contemplating the possibility of going to CAL later this year are aware of the class openings currently being offered.
As you are aware the company has made job offers at CAL to all 1,436 United furloughees under the terms of the Merger Transition and Process Agreement. The most junior 248 United furloughees received their CAL offer in July for a fall start. In order to accommodate the number of pilots who accepted these offers, as well as those who came off of bypass and military deferment, classes were added and filled through the end of October 2012. With the attached announcement further classes have been added through the end of the year. The first class of the scheduled fall classes started this past Tuesday, 28 August 2012, and further classes are currently scheduled to start each Tuesday through the end of the year, except for the Tuesday before Thanksgiving and Christmas Day. Each class will be a class of 12. The classes to be filled in November and December 2012 will be filled in seniority order with United Furloughees who come off of bypass or military deferment by notifying Captain V by close of business (16:00 CDT), Monday, 10 September 2012. When coming off of bypass or military deferment please state your availability date in order to be placed in a desired class or a class thereafter that your seniority can hold. If needed, new hires off of the street will be placed in remaining slots in these classes in accordance with the Merger Transition and Process Agreement. Based on anticipated manpower needs at CAL we expect further class offerings to become available at the beginning of 2013 and continue through the Spring.
In closing I wanted to address the other part of the attached update, the announcement by the company that there will be NO recall classes starting at United before the end of the year. This news has been very upsetting to the furloughed pilot group, who were sacrificed to make this merger happen. Despite all efforts by the UAL MEC System Schedule Committee and the MEC Officers to make the company begin the process of returning our Furloughed Pilots to United, the company continues to drag its feet, even knowing that retirements are coming and understaffing has affected the operation this summer. The understaffing problem at United was even highlighted in Captain Jay Heppner’s Labor Day Message: “With chronic under-staffing and numerous other mismanaged aspects of this merger, including last week’s “connectivity problem” that delayed hundreds of flights, combined with seasonal weather, heavy customer demand and other distractions, this past summer was especially challenging.” We find this announcement to be discouraging and short sighted by this “new” management group, and we will continue to do all we can to insist that the company begin the recall process to return our furloughees to United.
#17
FWIW, i just talked yesterday with our MEC chairman of ALPA membership and he's in constant communication with Charlie V. And Christi N. in our pilot recruitment at L-CAL. They expect to hire off the street for November class dates. So, dust off the pencils and update your logbooks.
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FWIW, i just talked yesterday with our MEC chairman of ALPA membership and he's in constant communication with Charlie V. And Christi N. in our pilot recruitment at L-CAL. They expect to hire off the street for November class dates. So, dust off the pencils and update your logbooks.
#19
#20
... that the phone rang off the wall with furloughed guys that previously rejected the offer to come to the L-CAL side. I wonder if we are going to go over and above the TPA and now offer those guys a fig leaf, despite their initial rejection of the employment offer?
Any thoughts, or substantiation to that rumor?
Any thoughts, or substantiation to that rumor?
We all know this is not a rightful UAL recall, but it is a provision that is covered in the agreement.
Section 7B; "... desire to re-enter the hiring process. At that time he will be eligible for the next available offer in seniority order."
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