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Old 08-31-2012, 02:47 AM
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United pilots say contract talks stalled
United Airlines pilots say negotiations to finalize Aug. 3 deal have stalled

By Joshua Free, AP



Pilots at United Airlines are saying that talks have stalled again, just weeks after the union and the airline said they had the beginnings of a deal.
United Continental Holdings Inc. has been negotiating for a joint union contract to cover pilots who came from United and Continental in their 2010 merger. On Aug. 3 they said they had agreed to the outlines of a deal, including pay raises and better job protections and benefits, although they still needed to work out the details.
Jay Heppner, the leader of the United pilots, complained in a Wednesday letter to the National Mediation Board that United management has been "injecting terms into previously agreed-to provisions making them now unacceptable." The letter was to NMB member Linda Puchala, who was running the talks.
His letter also repeated a request to offer arbitration, which is one step on the long road toward getting government permission for a strike, and is often the point at which airline labor deals get done. One step for getting that arbitration offer "should include bad faith bargaining. We certainly seem to be at that point," the letter said.
Puchala declined to comment on the letter. The airline issued a statement saying, "We disagree with the inaccurate characterization by Captain Heppner." It declined to comment further because, it said, the National Mediation Board has asked both sides not to talk to the media about the negotiations.
A negotiations update from the airline dated Tuesday said "issues have surfaced" while the language for the agreement was being drafted, but said the company and the union "are dealing with them expeditiously and are jointly focused on concluding this phase of the process."
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Stalled on time performance goals?
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I was on time one time this summer. But hey, I did MY job. No more, no less. Wake Up UCH!!! FUPM!!!
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why ask why? why turn off the apu? why call for a guideman? why call for a fueler? WHY?
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:25 AM
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why ask why? why turn off the apu? why call for a guideman? why call for a fueler? WHY?
Bingo! We were not trained by UCH to take such actions as these. Not in my our description.
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why ask why? why turn off the apu? why call for a guideman? why call for a fueler? WHY?
Why call for numbers? Why call MX for left over open write-ups? Why call for a jetway driver? Why make the second call to ops for catering issues? Why carry open mx issues? ................
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:38 PM
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Why call for numbers? Why call MX for left over open write-ups? Why call for a jetway driver? Why make the second call to ops for catering issues? Why carry open mx issues? ................

Why make the first call for catering? NOT YOUR JOB! I call for NOTHING. I waited 45 minutes for numbers once.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:48 PM
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Xactly! "hey Captain, you got everything?"
"nope. we need catering, and about 40 Thousand pounds of gas"
"but..but...it's dept. time!"
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Why call for numbers? Why call MX for left over open write-ups? Why call for a jetway driver? Why make the second call to ops for catering issues? Why carry open mx issues? ................
Because it is a go home leg
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why ask why? why turn off the apu? why call for a guideman? why call for a fueler? WHY?
Because you're adult professionals...although a very difficult, theoretical concept for some.
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