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Old 08-03-2012, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalGuy
That's all well and good, but my favorite is still their 'go to, catch all' phrase:
"Dignity & Respect".

Someone say, "Cue the deer"???
I thought that catch phrase was replaced by the new improved:

"Truly a game-changer"

I mean I keep seeing that in a lot of news stories and corporate communications and right out of El Jeffe's speech book. It is so interchangeable for a lot of things:

1. Merged airline
2. Brand new model airplanes
3. Contracts
4. Fuel prices
5. Frequent flyer program
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Originally Posted by REAL Pilot
When in the last 20 years has a TA been rejected (@UAL and much to my dismay!!!!)

Carpe Diem
UAL pilots rejected the 2007 TA offered by management.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalGuy:1239488
If you hadn't heard by now, "Freddy Abbott" wants to remind us all of the 'hard work' his team has put forth to procure this milestone....

CCS Sign-in Message:

Dear Pilots,

As you know, the company and ALPA have been meeting with the NMB for the last several weeks attempting to reach agreement on the remaining issues of the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement.

I am pleased to announce we have reached an Agreement in Principle (AIP) on all remaining issues. The agreement sets us up to take the final steps necessary to move all of our pilots to a new single Collective Bargaining Agreement.

There is still a lot of work to finalize the language of the AIP, and then it will be presented to the MECs, and to you. The negotiating teams will begin that process immediately.

Respectfully,

Fred
Die slowly Fred.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:57 AM
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Die slowly Fred.
At the very least get the **** away from this airline and take your PE dolt underlings with you...
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mvndc10
I heard it was a less then Delta agreement.

Kept CAL Scope phased in but paid for it with the pay rates....
Wanna trade?
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:59 AM
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Scope needs to be broken down to details.
Will the Express carriers be flying a total of more or less seats. And will they be employing more or less pilots to do that.
I'm ok with 76 seat scope. With a HARD CAP, route restrictions and no loopholes where the company can violate the Hard Cap when there is some "event" they can in fact create.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Wanna trade?
Devil is in the details.... CAL scope would be an epic start, no massive debt accrual due to jumbo RJ procurement.
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AIP is Delta minus 1$ with 400 million in retro/signing bonus. There are 12,000ish pilots, 400 million divided by 12,000 equals go ****.

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Old 08-03-2012, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 47dog
I'm ok with 76 seat scope. With a HARD CAP
The problem with "hard caps" is that they become "soft" with the next TA.

They always have, and management ALWAYS wants more.

So no, I'm not O.K. with a "hard cap" since it really doesn't exist.
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Originally Posted by SlickMachine
AIP is Delta minus 1$ with 400 million in retro/signing bonus.
Missing 1/2 billion. 400m is only 70m more than the top 9 execs made in the last 8 years. **** off and die hard. Retro pay. The gift that manages uses to keep on screwing.
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