Possible T/A for MEC Review??
08-08-2012, 04:22 PM
#221
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And DAL 70+ seats are 90 seat airframes, let me say that again: 90 seat airframes!!! yes they are configured to 76 seats, one day in MX and those airframes now contain 90 seats.
I really hope DAL's scope clause is iron clad, cause the camel not only has his nose under the tent, 3/4's of him is already in the tent. The pilots of UCH have ZERO trust in our management team to abide by any contract.
liquid
I really hope DAL's scope clause is iron clad, cause the camel not only has his nose under the tent, 3/4's of him is already in the tent. The pilots of UCH have ZERO trust in our management team to abide by any contract.
liquid
OMG?!?!?!?!?! Why would they do that?
08-08-2012, 04:43 PM
#222
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And DAL 70+ seats are 90 seat airframes, let me say that again: 90 seat airframes!!! yes they are configured to 76 seats, one day in MX and those airframes now contain 90 seats.
I really hope DAL's scope clause is iron clad, cause the camel not only has his nose under the tent, 3/4's of him is already in the tent. The pilots of UCH have ZERO trust in our management team to abide by any contract.
liquid
I really hope DAL's scope clause is iron clad, cause the camel not only has his nose under the tent, 3/4's of him is already in the tent. The pilots of UCH have ZERO trust in our management team to abide by any contract.
liquid
08-08-2012, 04:49 PM
#223
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Yes. Airplanes that mostly were 35-40 years of age with gas guzzling JT8D engines. I guess it was our weak scope. But wait! UAL parked 94 737's that were fuel inefficient. Maybe it just had to do with the price of oil.
08-08-2012, 05:56 PM
#224
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never heard of him.
if he understands ALPA, and the way it works, the way it is financed, and conflict of interest that exists between the regionals and the mainline carriers then I would love to meet him. Sounds like he is squared away.
It's simple.
1. Make ALPA choose a priority (mainline carriers)
2. Help ALPA set up, through your elected reps a true National agenda
3. Hold ALPA Accountable
4. BOD will meet every year to adjust plan and goals (current cycle too long)
if he understands ALPA, and the way it works, the way it is financed, and conflict of interest that exists between the regionals and the mainline carriers then I would love to meet him. Sounds like he is squared away.
It's simple.
1. Make ALPA choose a priority (mainline carriers)
2. Help ALPA set up, through your elected reps a true National agenda
3. Hold ALPA Accountable
4. BOD will meet every year to adjust plan and goals (current cycle too long)
08-08-2012, 05:57 PM
#225
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This $400 mil figure keeps hitting my inbox from various disconnected sources. Now there seems to be some recurring rumor that payment of it will be split, $250M at ratification and the balance paid out only after SLI and a significant portion of the retro in stock. So, if no one from the NC is talking where do these rumors start and why are they so specific???
On an even funnier note, I had a reserve L-CAL FO try to tell a group of us in DEN this little tidbit. "Because of the huge disparity between our pay and Delta rates, especially as it concerns new hire L-CAL pilots at the bottom of the longevity range, FO retro pay calculations would exceed top of the scale CA retro pay calculations."
WHO MAKES THIS STUFF UP?!!!!!!!!
On an even funnier note, I had a reserve L-CAL FO try to tell a group of us in DEN this little tidbit. "Because of the huge disparity between our pay and Delta rates, especially as it concerns new hire L-CAL pilots at the bottom of the longevity range, FO retro pay calculations would exceed top of the scale CA retro pay calculations."
WHO MAKES THIS STUFF UP?!!!!!!!!
08-08-2012, 10:06 PM
#226
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When will people realize that they make more money with 76 seats then with 90 seats? Do we put 180 seats in our 320's? Are there over 200 seats in our 757-200's? No. Just because an airframe holds a number doesn't mean it makes sense. They need the 2 class product to command the premium fares.
In other words, DAL "brothers" caved on scope for a few coins and "shiny" 15 year old DC-9s with less-smoky engines. :
:SCR
08-09-2012, 04:08 AM
#227
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Interesting theory. Apparently though, someone forgot to mention it to all the premium fare paying passengers that continued to use Delta and USAir after they both fubared the RES cutover of their respective systems. One sweet little fare sale or a bunch of free miles and they'll come running back.
08-09-2012, 05:31 AM
#228
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Skywest and their kind are a cancer that needs to be killed.
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08-09-2012, 05:48 AM
#229
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Try to rationalize the 90 seat airframes all you want, pal. All DAL and the rest of the legacy carriers need is some good self-made catastrophe like the March 3rd cutover of reservation systems that UAL hosed and what do you get? Droves of "premium fare-paying" customers deserting your carrier. Then watch those 6 "first class" (hah hah) seats get ripped out along with the bulkhead and replaced with 5 more rows of coach. Suddenly, 90 seats. Suckers.
In other words, DAL "brothers" caved on scope for a few coins and "shiny" 15 year old DC-9s with less-smoky engines. :
SCR
In other words, DAL "brothers" caved on scope for a few coins and "shiny" 15 year old DC-9s with less-smoky engines. :
SCR
BTW, it's 9 or 12 first class seats. Not 6.
08-09-2012, 06:45 AM
#230
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I agree after the last "stock" options we were given. I would buy off on this as long as there is enough of it, I can sell it all the next day, and the strike price for the options is $0.00.
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