Possible T/A for MEC Review??
08-04-2012, 05:39 AM
#101
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Look back to 2002. UAL has done an a poor job at best at representing the bottom third of this list.
Your attitude that I'm not active so screw me, has put me on the verge of resigning from ALPA after over 25 years. It's not a union. It's a group of selfish individuals like yourself. You've pretty much lost the bottom third of the seniority list who no longer wishes to be in your cult.
Dog
ALPA 25 plus years
Former ALPA officer
Disgusted
Your attitude that I'm not active so screw me, has put me on the verge of resigning from ALPA after over 25 years. It's not a union. It's a group of selfish individuals like yourself. You've pretty much lost the bottom third of the seniority list who no longer wishes to be in your cult.
Dog
ALPA 25 plus years
Former ALPA officer
Disgusted
08-04-2012, 06:33 AM
#102
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Look back to 2002. UAL has done an a poor job at best at representing the bottom third of this list.
Your attitude that I'm not active so screw me, has put me on the verge of resigning from ALPA after over 25 years. It's not a union. It's a group of selfish individuals like yourself. You've pretty much lost the bottom third of the seniority list who no longer wishes to be in your cult.
Dog
ALPA 25 plus years
Former ALPA officer
Disgusted
Your attitude that I'm not active so screw me, has put me on the verge of resigning from ALPA after over 25 years. It's not a union. It's a group of selfish individuals like yourself. You've pretty much lost the bottom third of the seniority list who no longer wishes to be in your cult.
Dog
ALPA 25 plus years
Former ALPA officer
Disgusted
08-04-2012, 07:02 AM
#103
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Without giving any credence to idle speculation on a bulletin board largely populated by gum-flapping, blog-obsessed genX pilots, you do not know if the "company capitulated." All NMB supervised "quid pro quo" negotiations are about trading and compromise.
Since there is an AIP/TA, there was likely trading and compromise to get to an agreement.
Since there is an AIP/TA, there was likely trading and compromise to get to an agreement.
I think it's high-time for your wife to resume the censuring of your post's as she was doing earlier.
Again.....Aren't you retired yet??
08-04-2012, 07:25 AM
#105
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However, if some individuals want to express/discuss as what they personally expect/need to see in order garner their individual vote, have at it.
Outside of speculating specific as gospel in the forthcoming TA, since when is bringing perspective and thought to the table such a bad thing??
08-04-2012, 07:28 AM
#106
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The 200 plus United pilots flying for Continental are dues paying ALPA members and ALPA is legally obligated to represent them (us). As long as one is represented, we are all essentially represented. Both Jay's and Wendy are on record stating longevity for pay purposes is a priority in a new contract. If it isn't in the eventual TA, it is because ALPA chose to take something else instead of it. I believe that in United's contract 2000, furlough credit was given to pilots for purposes of retirement calculation, ironically, this was a bone thrown to appese the most senior pilots at the time. We also gained our no furlough protection which United ALPA chose to not defend, unlike Delta ALPA which defended and won.
08-04-2012, 07:51 AM
#107
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I encourage everyone to take just 15 minutes to just flip through Section 1-SCOPE. Not reading word-for-word, but just to see everything that Section 1 entails. For some who get tunnel visioned on "Size" of RJ's, that is just a 'microcosm' of what you'll find in Section1/SCOPE.
As "ST" pointed out, Terms like "Foreign", "Code-Share", "Express entity", "Hub-Hub", and MORE will all comprise that of SCOPE. When/if we are handed a TA, the MEC-JNC should be able to explain ANY/ALL Language within Section1, in plain terms, as it pertains to Mainline Job Protection & flying.
08-04-2012, 08:04 AM
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Furloughed pilots got no credit for furlough time at Delta or UAL in the 80's. I came about for the first time at Delta in the96 or 01 contract. Can't remember which one.
08-04-2012, 08:42 AM
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Section 1 SCOPE encompasses all that an MORE.
I encourage everyone to take just 15 minutes to just flip through Section 1-SCOPE. Not reading word-for-word, but just to see everything that Section 1 entails. For some who get tunnel visioned on "Size" of RJ's, that is just a 'microcosm' of what you'll find in Section1/SCOPE.
As "ST" pointed out, Terms like "Foreign", "Code-Share", "Express entity", "Hub-Hub", and MORE will all comprise that of SCOPE. When/if we are handed a TA, the MEC-JNC should be able to explain ANY/ALL Language within Section1, in plain terms, as it pertains to Mainline Job Protection & flying.
I encourage everyone to take just 15 minutes to just flip through Section 1-SCOPE. Not reading word-for-word, but just to see everything that Section 1 entails. For some who get tunnel visioned on "Size" of RJ's, that is just a 'microcosm' of what you'll find in Section1/SCOPE.
As "ST" pointed out, Terms like "Foreign", "Code-Share", "Express entity", "Hub-Hub", and MORE will all comprise that of SCOPE. When/if we are handed a TA, the MEC-JNC should be able to explain ANY/ALL Language within Section1, in plain terms, as it pertains to Mainline Job Protection & flying.
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