Negotiations....
06-30-2012, 11:24 AM
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Tell them the rest of the possibilities.......or two, the NMB tells both parties to go home for one to six months, "re-think" their positions and come back at the NMB's direction ready to negotiate and finish the deal. Translated, that means the pilots have been "iced." Or three, the NMB schedules both parties to continue negotiating.
With four months to go to a presidential election, I wouldn't get overly excited just yet.
(My wife just told me I should put some sort of "smiley face" on this just to help prevent some from getting their shorts in a wad...so here it is)
Last edited by Old UCAL CA; 06-30-2012 at 11:59 AM.
06-30-2012, 11:46 AM
#92
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You guys get so excited.
Tell them the rest of the possibilities.......or, the NMB tells both parties to go home for one to six months, "re-think" their positions and come back at the NMB's direction ready to negotiate and finish the deal. Translated, that means the pilots have been "iced."
With four months to go to a presidential election, I wouldn't get overly excited just yet.
(My wife just told me I should put some sort of "smiley face" on this just to help prevent some from getting their shorts in a wad...so here it is)
Tell them the rest of the possibilities.......or, the NMB tells both parties to go home for one to six months, "re-think" their positions and come back at the NMB's direction ready to negotiate and finish the deal. Translated, that means the pilots have been "iced."
With four months to go to a presidential election, I wouldn't get overly excited just yet.
(My wife just told me I should put some sort of "smiley face" on this just to help prevent some from getting their shorts in a wad...so here it is)
06-30-2012, 12:05 PM
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"The one thing we do not want to do is allow ourselves to be baited into premature self-help, which would give the company an excuse to drag us into court and gain leverage over our negotiations. We will remain professional and responsible in all our dealings at work. As we have stated before and will continue to state, now is not the time for us to act out our frustrations or take actions to impact the operation. We do not want any pilot to jeopardize himself, the Association or the two MECs' Strategic Plan. We must maintain the Status Quo until we are released by the NMB and the 30-day cooling off period has expired."
Unfortunately "Status Quo" hasn't been "Flying the contract, etc..."
Unfortunately "Status Quo" hasn't been "Flying the contract, etc..."
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06-30-2012, 02:59 PM
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I don't get on here very often except as a personal interest and past business involving aviation labor issues. Nor do I know if the individual in question is retired.
However, he or she is quite accurate when describing the choices available to the NMB at this point in time in your negotiations.
However, he or she is quite accurate when describing the choices available to the NMB at this point in time in your negotiations.
06-30-2012, 05:10 PM
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"The one thing we do not want to do is allow ourselves to be baited into premature self-help, which would give the company an excuse to drag us into court and gain leverage over our negotiations. We will remain professional and responsible in all our dealings at work. As we have stated before and will continue to state, now is not the time for us to act out our frustrations or take actions to impact the operation. We do not want any pilot to jeopardize himself, the Association or the two MECs' Strategic Plan. We must maintain the Status Quo until we are released by the NMB and the 30-day cooling off period has expired."
Unfortunately "Status Quo" hasn't been "Flying the contract, etc..."
Unfortunately "Status Quo" hasn't been "Flying the contract, etc..."
Last edited by krudawg; 06-30-2012 at 05:12 PM. Reason: word mis-spelled
06-30-2012, 05:41 PM
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The elephant in the room is the company has us in checkmate because of 4 pilots who were warned repeatedly to cease all industrial realations activities yet they continued their activities which resulted in the Injunction which constrains us in the way in which we have traditionally "managed" an intransigent management. I for one am fed up with this BS waiting for the moment when the almighty Jeff might decide to throw us a bone. I say we go back to NMB and complain that this injunction violates the spirit of the RLA because it unduly constrains our ability to maintain a status quo. Time to start thinking and acting out of the box
Intent of the RLA?
06-30-2012, 06:50 PM
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07-01-2012, 06:39 AM
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You guys get so excited.
However, he or she is quite accurate when describing the choices available to the NMB at this point in time in your negotiations.
07-01-2012, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA:1222290
Tell them the rest of the possibilities.......or two, the NMB tells both parties to go home for one to six months, "re-think" their positions and come back at the NMB's direction ready to negotiate and finish the deal. Translated, that means the pilots have been "iced." Or three, the NMB schedules both parties to continue negotiating.
With four months to go to a presidential election, I wouldn't get overly excited just yet.
(My wife just told me I should put some sort of "smiley face" on this just to help prevent some from getting their shorts in a wad...so here it is)
Does your wife also oversee your going potty to make sure you wipe front to back?
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