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#13
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BY FAR our best way ahead is to GET THESE MECs TOGETHER to act in unity. That means that the CAL MEC is going to have to accept that Pierce works for THEM and act accordingly.
I'd love to just start throwing the bad actors out, but it's not feasible now. We need to ASSERT OURSELVES since this union works for US.
#17
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: EWR B737FO
Posts: 225
As a L-CAL pilot, I fully support getting a JCBA now, not necessarily any individual MC. Thats the goal, not putting halo's or wreaths on any MC. If we want to unify, it must be the MEC that must step up...and communicate/ coordinate. I support MY MEC and it's current approach to the Heppner plan. Would support the Heppner plan if my MEC had been engaged and briefed. Why would i trust UA MEC and Heppner with my future given the historical and current disdain for CAL pilots and repeated lack of coordination with my elected leadership on multiple issues. What arrogance to think we would just fall in- line w/ out some coordination with the CAL MEC. Talk with us...if you refuse to work Jointly with our elected leadership, then it will remain a stalemate. The MEC and LC reps need to take the lead in bringing the two pilot groups together. JP and JH are incapable because of the contol, power and politics of leading the future 12K pilots once we become ONE union and ALPA National. I do not believe Heppner is a fool, he understands the landscape of the L- UA pilots and I suspect has the best interest at heart for the L-UA pilots BUT certainly not the joint/ collective group.
#18
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: 787 Captain
Posts: 1,512
As a L-CAL pilot, I fully support getting a JCBA now, not necessarily any individual MC. Thats the goal, not putting halo's or wreaths on any MC. If we want to unify, it must be the MEC that must step up...and communicate/ coordinate. I support MY MEC and it's current approach to the Heppner plan. Would support the Heppner plan if my MEC had been engaged and briefed. Why would i trust UA MEC and Heppner with my future given the historical and current disdain for CAL pilots and repeated lack of coordination with my elected leadership on multiple issues. What arrogance to think we would just fall in- line w/ out some coordination with the CAL MEC. Talk with us...if you refuse to work Jointly with our elected leadership, then it will remain a stalemate. The MEC and LC reps need to take the lead in bringing the two pilot groups together. JP and JH are incapable because of the contol, power and politics of leading the future 12K pilots once we become ONE union and ALPA National. I do not believe Heppner is a fool, he understands the landscape of the L- UA pilots and I suspect has the best interest at heart for the L-UA pilots BUT certainly not the joint/ collective group.
FWIW, when you ask to be released, you just may GET released. You and the rest of the CAL pilots (MEC and MC included) may be faced with a choice if we are successful in getting released, but unsuccessful in getting a TA prior to the end of the cooling off period. I am encouraging you to consider that and plan appropriately.
#19
As a L-CAL pilot, I fully support getting a JCBA now, not necessarily any individual MC. Thats the goal, not putting halo's or wreaths on any MC. If we want to unify, it must be the MEC that must step up...and communicate/ coordinate. I support MY MEC and it's current approach to the Heppner plan. Would support the Heppner plan if my MEC had been engaged and briefed. Why would i trust UA MEC and Heppner with my future given the historical and current disdain for CAL pilots and repeated lack of coordination with my elected leadership on multiple issues. What arrogance to think we would just fall in- line w/ out some coordination with the CAL MEC. Talk with us...if you refuse to work Jointly with our elected leadership, then it will remain a stalemate. The MEC and LC reps need to take the lead in bringing the two pilot groups together. JP and JH are incapable because of the contol, power and politics of leading the future 12K pilots once we become ONE union and ALPA National. I do not believe Heppner is a fool, he understands the landscape of the L- UA pilots and I suspect has the best interest at heart for the L-UA pilots BUT certainly not the joint/ collective group.
Where was all of your indignation then? Did you send a message to JP and your reps telling them how poorly they handled the situation for not attending a scheduled joint meeting?
Meanwhile, JP is attempting to hold the process hostage unless the UAL MEC drops the grievance and the T&PA legal action that the UAL MEC has pending against the company (and not the CAL pilots, as some on here would like to characterize it).
Its time for everybody to get on board. I think everybody can agree that we are long overdue for a contract.
Hog
#20
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,071
As a L-CAL pilot, I fully support getting a JCBA now, not necessarily any individual MC. Thats the goal, not putting halo's or wreaths on any MC. If we want to unify, it must be the MEC that must step up...and communicate/ coordinate. I support MY MEC and it's current approach to the Heppner plan. Would support the Heppner plan if my MEC had been engaged and briefed. Why would i trust UA MEC and Heppner with my future given the historical and current disdain for CAL pilots and repeated lack of coordination with my elected leadership on multiple issues. What arrogance to think we would just fall in- line w/ out some coordination with the CAL MEC. Talk with us...if you refuse to work Jointly with our elected leadership, then it will remain a stalemate. The MEC and LC reps need to take the lead in bringing the two pilot groups together. JP and JH are incapable because of the contol, power and politics of leading the future 12K pilots once we become ONE union and ALPA National. I do not believe Heppner is a fool, he understands the landscape of the L- UA pilots and I suspect has the best interest at heart for the L-UA pilots BUT certainly not the joint/ collective group.
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