New rumblings from the L-UAL side???
#21
Keep Calm Chive ON
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Boeing's Plastic Jet Button Pusher - 787
Posts: 2,086
I agree. I think this summer is already a lost cause beginning at the end of june and peaking the end of aug.
If they were smart, theyd train 25/ month now to assist when others from cal possibly go to ual. Cant wait for that training CF!
Jeffys pride gets in the way of profits
If they were smart, theyd train 25/ month now to assist when others from cal possibly go to ual. Cant wait for that training CF!
Jeffys pride gets in the way of profits
It's amazing, UCH just reported a 'moderate' Q1-2012 loss. Maybe Jeff & Freddy would understand:
JCBA + Synergies = Fostered potential "PROFITS"
I'm sure (hope) come this summer, his ego will get pimp-slapped w/ that reality.
#23
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 73
If I'm fatigued, sick, etc I just won't except an assignment. As pilots we are totally responsible for the safety of our co-workers, and passengers. In the interest of safety I will not except any assignment I feel will jeopardize safety...... I encourage every pilot I fly with to do the same. I told Mr. Fox in GSR exactly what I'm posting here. If the company wants to work us to minimum FAR's then I'll use the FAR's to protect me, my crew, and our passengers.
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: 73 CA EWR
Posts: 514
If I'm fatigued, sick, etc I just won't except an assignment. As pilots we are totally responsible for the safety of our co-workers, and passengers. In the interest of safety I will not except any assignment I feel will jeopardize safety...... I encourage every pilot I fly with to do the same. I told Mr. Fox in GSR exactly what I'm posting here. If the company wants to work us to minimum FAR's then I'll use the FAR's to protect me, my crew, and our passengers.
#25
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 73
Really? Ask the pilots that are rolled, double pumped etc. Why do you think they accept these assignments? Because maybe they are afraid of retribution, lost pay, etc? Unfortunately there are many pilots that do not understand their rights, and that's by design here at L-CAL.
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 225
Really? Ask the pilots that are rolled, double pumped etc. Why do you think they accept these assignments? Because maybe they are afraid of retribution, lost pay, etc? Unfortunately there are many pilots that do not understand their rights, and that's by design here at L-CAL.
#27
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: B737
Posts: 12
Guys,
I don't post much, but I have had it.... I am a 737 cal fo. I am getting double pumped after flying a 4 day with early show times ... I end this 4 day with a red eye from las to iah and go back out to Vancouver... I am not going to fly the second trip, it is not safe... I welcome the ual legacy pilots thick skin and actual backbone.... Thanks....
I don't post much, but I have had it.... I am a 737 cal fo. I am getting double pumped after flying a 4 day with early show times ... I end this 4 day with a red eye from las to iah and go back out to Vancouver... I am not going to fly the second trip, it is not safe... I welcome the ual legacy pilots thick skin and actual backbone.... Thanks....
#28
Guys,
I don't post much, but I have had it.... I am a 737 cal fo. I am getting double pumped after flying a 4 day with early show times ... I end this 4 day with a red eye from las to iah and go back out to Vancouver... I am not going to fly the second trip, it is not safe... I welcome the ual legacy pilots thick skin and actual backbone.... Thanks....
I don't post much, but I have had it.... I am a 737 cal fo. I am getting double pumped after flying a 4 day with early show times ... I end this 4 day with a red eye from las to iah and go back out to Vancouver... I am not going to fly the second trip, it is not safe... I welcome the ual legacy pilots thick skin and actual backbone.... Thanks....
#29
Gets Rolled on the Reg.
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 274
Really? Ask the pilots that are rolled, double pumped etc. Why do you think they accept these assignments? Because maybe they are afraid of retribution, lost pay, etc? Unfortunately there are many pilots that do not understand their rights, and that's by design here at L-CAL.
Guys,
I don't post much, but I have had it.... I am a 737 cal fo. I am getting double pumped after flying a 4 day with early show times ... I end this 4 day with a red eye from las to iah and go back out to Vancouver... I am not going to fly the second trip, it is not safe... I welcome the ual legacy pilots thick skin and actual backbone.... Thanks....
I don't post much, but I have had it.... I am a 737 cal fo. I am getting double pumped after flying a 4 day with early show times ... I end this 4 day with a red eye from las to iah and go back out to Vancouver... I am not going to fly the second trip, it is not safe... I welcome the ual legacy pilots thick skin and actual backbone.... Thanks....
Our laughably unacceptable contracts, which management love and is fighting to not change,
will only change to what they should be, when we fight back. S2K has such a nice ring to it.
#30
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: 756 Left Side
Posts: 1,629
Really? Ask the pilots that are rolled, double pumped etc. Why do you think they accept these assignments? Because maybe they are afraid of retribution, lost pay, etc? Unfortunately there are many pilots that do not understand their rights, and that's by design here at L-CAL.
Not everyone, and more are seeing the light every day.
For the record, I have been double pumped a few times.. and the last two times- have called "Fatigued" and that was that. Only thing I suggest to those who do it, don't screw the schedulers and wait till the last minute. If you can't get back to sleep or realize that you're not going to make it later in the evening.. just call "Fatigue" then.
In my case, did it a 3pmish and at 4pmish.. for late night departures.
Fly Safe, Fly Professional and Fly the Contract.. no more and no less~
Always
Motch
PS> I also believe that those "new hire" CAL/UAL Pilots won't be playing this game this summer. They truly have nothing to lose. If they get fired, they still have a number at UAL & get unemployment! Plus, if they get fired.. CAL is doubly screwed for the rest of the month and the schedule going forward! Nice mess manpower planning and management created.
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