Then why are we getting iPads now?
03-16-2012, 11:28 AM
#11
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Maybe you just haven't been to federal court and heard testimony regarding video surveillance of pilots in flight ops, or of every key stroke union leaders made on company computers and web sites or posts made by pilots on password protected pilot forums.
I think your idea of "common sense" might change a little bit if you had experienced some of these things.
I think your idea of "common sense" might change a little bit if you had experienced some of these things.
03-16-2012, 12:01 PM
#12
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If union leaders are doing union business on company computers then they are idiots, but I think that's already been established.
Computers, iPads are company property. Crew lounges are company property. They can pretty much do what they want. My Pad will be shut off on the employee bus and put in the closet when I get home.
I've flown with a couple of companies when out on furlough using tablets, you will love them. Quick search whatever subject you have a question about. Every manual available. Pull up a chart and expand it ( for the over 40 club). And it saves the company big money. Which puts more in the pot for us to negotiate for and keeps us employees. And no more stupid flight bags.
It's a good thing.
Computers, iPads are company property. Crew lounges are company property. They can pretty much do what they want. My Pad will be shut off on the employee bus and put in the closet when I get home.
I've flown with a couple of companies when out on furlough using tablets, you will love them. Quick search whatever subject you have a question about. Every manual available. Pull up a chart and expand it ( for the over 40 club). And it saves the company big money. Which puts more in the pot for us to negotiate for and keeps us employees. And no more stupid flight bags.
It's a good thing.
03-16-2012, 02:07 PM
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They don't know. I'm surprised when they have tried to call me to check in for a trip starting tomorrow, when I'm still in the air flying today's trip. They've also called me at layovers looking for me to show up at another airport on the other side of the country. "You didn't know I'm in SFO?" This company's right hand doesn't know what it's left hand is doing. I'm not afraid of them tracking me with my iPad. The black United helicopter over my house is a different matter.
Personally, I don't want anything to do with the company's IPad. Just one more thing to carry and I'll still need to carry my own laptop or Ipad for personal email and union work.
03-16-2012, 02:37 PM
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This is a serious question. The following is from the March 2012 iPad update news letter (red text from the original; all other emphasis added by me):
So based on this, we are getting iPads now but we still have to keep all paper manuals, not just the Jepps. Something else to carry around with no reduction in anything else. You know this is all well and good for the L-UAL side who have ship sets. Why are we issuing these things before we get that FAA approval to actually eliminate the paper versions of these manuals and use the iPad below 10,000 feet?
Will it be a requirement that we have to pick up the iPad or even carry it? If not, I prefer to wait until the FAA signs off on actually being able to use the thing as intended before I get one from the CPO.
So based on this, we are getting iPads now but we still have to keep all paper manuals, not just the Jepps. Something else to carry around with no reduction in anything else. You know this is all well and good for the L-UAL side who have ship sets. Why are we issuing these things before we get that FAA approval to actually eliminate the paper versions of these manuals and use the iPad below 10,000 feet?
Will it be a requirement that we have to pick up the iPad or even carry it? If not, I prefer to wait until the FAA signs off on actually being able to use the thing as intended before I get one from the CPO.
Volume 4 Aircraft equipment and operational authorizations
Chapter 15 electronic flight bag authorization for use
Section 1 Electronic Flight Bag Operational Authorization Process
ENJOY!!!
03-16-2012, 03:14 PM
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I-Pad user guide for senior pilots
For the non-German speaking friends - the dialog is as follows:
She: Say Dad, how are you getting along with the iPad we gave you for your birthday?
He: Fine.
She: You mean you are OK with all the apps?
He: What apps?
The rest is self-explanatory…
iPad - YouTube
She: Say Dad, how are you getting along with the iPad we gave you for your birthday?
He: Fine.
She: You mean you are OK with all the apps?
He: What apps?
The rest is self-explanatory…
iPad - YouTube
03-16-2012, 03:16 PM
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For the non-German speaking friends - the dialog is as follows:
She: Say Dad, how are you getting along with the iPad we gave you for your birthday?
He: Fine.
She: You mean you are OK with all the apps?
He: What apps?
The rest is self-explanatory…
iPad - YouTube
She: Say Dad, how are you getting along with the iPad we gave you for your birthday?
He: Fine.
She: You mean you are OK with all the apps?
He: What apps?
The rest is self-explanatory…
iPad - YouTube
03-17-2012, 07:10 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
The black United helicopter over my house is a different matter.
Are those pilots on the seniority list or are they outsourcing those, too?
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