CAL System Bid released
03-01-2012, 07:04 PM
#31
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Right sizing - not really just moving the pieces around for the company. All this will do is cause a few new bids for the 737 Capt at DEN and Ord, but most of the bids will be filled by lateral movement. Since no backfiling for the loses at IAH and EWR it is a wash.
Expect to see a 320 base in IAH and increase 320 flying out of EWR at about the same time, Sept 2012. Both of these will be 320 flying out of ORD and maybe some out of the West Coast(SFO/LAX). Again block hour ratio will remain the same no windfall. Could see 320 pilots moving into widebody slots(747/777) they can hold with an open bid.
Expect to see a 320 base in IAH and increase 320 flying out of EWR at about the same time, Sept 2012. Both of these will be 320 flying out of ORD and maybe some out of the West Coast(SFO/LAX). Again block hour ratio will remain the same no windfall. Could see 320 pilots moving into widebody slots(747/777) they can hold with an open bid.
03-01-2012, 07:50 PM
#32
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What part do you question? I think most has been discussed/posted on this forum before. I'll try to find the reference(it's here). The part of the WB bidding is conjecture. UAL bids closer to training date than CAL. I think all this is supposed to happen in Sept of this year.
03-01-2012, 07:59 PM
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Chicago isn't what I want however I'll take a Chicago winter before a Houston summer any day.
Regarding bids I suspect the SCal bids in DEN will go very senior while the SUAL bids in IAH will go relatively junior. I think the TDY A320 IAH flying will go senior.
Regarding bids I suspect the SCal bids in DEN will go very senior while the SUAL bids in IAH will go relatively junior. I think the TDY A320 IAH flying will go senior.
03-01-2012, 08:04 PM
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It would be better if nobody(CAL/UAL) took any of these bids and let the company pay to move/house people for a TDY operation. Greed probably won't allow that. We should do what the MEC wouldn't do. Make the company give us a JCBA through our actions.
03-01-2012, 10:59 PM
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I think you're wrong about IAH going junior, but we'll see. There are a lot of guys I'm guessing at UA that live in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Austin tht I'm sure will love to bid closer to home.
03-01-2012, 11:04 PM
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However, picking a base has nothing to do with greed. If someone can stop commuting or move closer to home with the addition of these doniciles, that is good. That's one of our goals in a JCBA right, to increase our collective QOL.
03-02-2012, 05:15 AM
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We both know there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of that happening. Just look at all the open time still being picked up at both companies.
However, picking a base has nothing to do with greed. If someone can stop commuting or move closer to home with the addition of these doniciles, that is good. That's one of our goals in a JCBA right, to increase our collective QOL.
However, picking a base has nothing to do with greed. If someone can stop commuting or move closer to home with the addition of these doniciles, that is good. That's one of our goals in a JCBA right, to increase our collective QOL.
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03-02-2012, 06:37 AM
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UAL pilots are still getting Carats ( a unit of weight in gemstones )
and Cal Pilots are getting Carrots (the nutritious, orange to yellow root of this plant, eaten raw or cooked or something hoped for or promised as a lure or incentive )
03-02-2012, 08:03 AM
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Not so much growth as aircraft replacements. Management has been clear that most of these new 737s are being used to replace the -500s. The net change in total 737s is certainly nothing drastic if any.
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