UalHvy

Jay Hepner. He will unite the MEC. You heard it here 1st.

chuckyt1

I agree with most of this. The big problem is with "Current camps". That is what we need to eliminate. There should only be one "Camp" right now. We need to put "Who's right" aside and concentrate on "What's right".

HSLD

Please realize that I don't send you any email, I think the candidates have to pay ALPA to send their own messages to the membership mailing list.

HSLD

From the Sun Tzu, the Hat Switch, and a Glen's gotta go web site camp - awesome! 'cause it worked so well the first time

UalHvy

And Wendy has been such a success. October 18 can't come soon enough.

HSLD

I'm not suggesting that the current MEC chair has been any more effective than the last, far from it. My opinion is that if the MEC sets the stage in the next election to continue to play East vs. West, then it's going to be 2 more years of the same.

I'm ready for a change, and I agree that 10/18 can't come soon enough.

oldmako

Didn't Jay bring us the T feckless TPA which expires at the end of December? The one which could potentially cost thousands of us at UAL our jobs? How come there are protections in the CAL letter but not the UAL? That Jay?

Isn't Jay the Neg chair on the current contract? Won't his leaving that position only drag out the JCBA even further?

I don't know Jay from shinola but there is an active thread on the other forum which aligns him very closely with Paul Whiteford and a whole bunch of crap from the bankruptcy. So, without further info I am quite skeptical of him. Hell the two points above make him a non starter in my eyes.

6000 or so guys at UAL and we can't some up with someone else? And WHY must the MC always be a widebody type?

syd111

I have no idea who pays for what with the political campaigns. Since you are in his camp and yes I have heard some good things on him maybe you can tell me when he came back to work with ual during 1985. Hard to tell from his advertisment. Keep in mind we did have more 570 cross than just the "first" day. We also had many that played both sides of the fence for 30 days. As far as him organizing from inside the training center that might be but I never saw him. Don't remember him from dumpster days or boylesl either, but I might have missed him.

I am not much of an alpa fan anymore regardless. Some of the weakness in 1985 started this but over the years watching our Alpa brothers waiting for ch-11 and hoping other airlines would liquidate, some even signing contracts to help us liquidate kind of sours me to the alpa brotherhood.
Even have some moderators here that sound like they can't wait for amr to file and maybe break apart so they can get the pieces, yes I realize that amr is not alpa.

I also do not think that things will get settled here regardless of who is in office. The company does not want to settle anything or it would be done by now. All I keep seeing that benefit at all is high level management, our hundreds of pilot managers that never really do anything that has to do with flying an airplane, yes hundreds. Certainly our lca's are having a great time while they run there banks to well over 50 hours a month, sorry except the cal lca's who get it all paid out monthly, so I am told, our guys will be all over this when they can. Maybe 120-140 a month while deadheading around the system.

As a line pilot all we see is the same old song and dance from the union and the company, oh and some flow changes and call outs. The other change I keep seeing is some of our flying being swithed to the other side.

You think Baldwin or anyone else is going to start to change this, maybe, seems liketoo little too late from what I keep seeing.

gettinbumped

Fair question: a couple of other things really stood out. He suggested that Wendy "team" always stayed on the high road, and that the thugs that are terrorizing the MEC are always dragging it into the public view and airing the dirty political laundry. This was right after Genovese's email. I think the video shows that Wendy and her supporters are just at guilty of letting their differences out into the free air. He even SCREAMED it in full caps that she NEVER does those things.

The other one that stuck with me really strongly was his, again capitalized, insistence that Wendy only did what the majority of the MEC wanted, and always followed majority MEC direction. This was right after the special MEC meeting where two resolutions that passed by a majorty (I believe 9-6) were deemed untimely? (might not have been untimely.... Can't remember the exact term) by Wendy. She was able to do this because there wasn't a 2/3 majority. You can support your team, but to post (in caps) two "facts" that had been shown to be inaccurate days before didn't exactly smack with credibility.

I've flown quite frequently with one of these "thugs" on the MEC. I take what he says with some salt, as I know the MEC is a political animal, but the things he says have proved accurate in most cases. The simple fact is, we don't have a contract, we didn't get an equity stake in the new company, and our moment of leverage was lost. All this happened with Wendy at the helm. I think her actions contributed greatly to all these things. Before you flame me for that last statement, go ask how many ALPA reps were parked in the justice department while they were considering this merger. How many did Delta have up there? When did the company stop playing "nice"? **hint, it was the DAY after the DOJ approved the merger. I'm not suggesting that everything could have been done perfectly smoothly, but I do believe it could have been done better. A LOT better. At the very least, we should have been able to negotiate an equity stake, just like DAL did, and just like we did during Ch 11.

gettinbumped

Apologies for the typos above... Sent from an iPhone. By the way, I'm pretty frustrated with both "camps" as well. There is plenty of blame to go around, and I firmly believe out MEC is broken. I just take exception to someone watching Wendy's video and taking it as "fact". It's a political ploy... Something both sides need to stop doing