Phase II training for UAL pilots.
09-27-2011, 07:19 AM
#32
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EWRflyr,
I agree 100%. When we adopted the QRC big questions would always arise on the airplanes with electronic checklist. Do I start with the QRC, ECL, Flt manual. So I finish the QRC, then I have to do the ECL and finally reference the manual for the performance calculations for a abnormal config landing. Pure and total chaos with books all over the simulator. I like the ORH, one stop shopping and yet our simpletons can't understand simple!
My fellow UA pilots appear to be lazy and untrainable when it comes to change. For a large cross section of our group perhaps it is because they didn't bring a lot to the table when they were hired? Not being a flamer but to ignore that fact is to ignore the elephant in the room. They just don't understand how to train for something new. We had to change our checklist in the late 80's early 90's to be the same response for all fleets. Too many could not adapt to different fleet specific calls and responses.
L
I agree 100%. When we adopted the QRC big questions would always arise on the airplanes with electronic checklist. Do I start with the QRC, ECL, Flt manual. So I finish the QRC, then I have to do the ECL and finally reference the manual for the performance calculations for a abnormal config landing. Pure and total chaos with books all over the simulator. I like the ORH, one stop shopping and yet our simpletons can't understand simple!
My fellow UA pilots appear to be lazy and untrainable when it comes to change. For a large cross section of our group perhaps it is because they didn't bring a lot to the table when they were hired? Not being a flamer but to ignore that fact is to ignore the elephant in the room. They just don't understand how to train for something new. We had to change our checklist in the late 80's early 90's to be the same response for all fleets. Too many could not adapt to different fleet specific calls and responses.
L
Well, congratulations, you've managed to disprove your point in your own post.
You remember when adopting the QRC that it was "Pure and total chaos with books all over the SIMULATOR" in the same post when you suggest United pilots that aren't satisfied with training by computer to change pretty much every habit pattern they have developed over the previous xxx decade(s) are inadequate.
Do you have any idea how many times I'm going to accidentally hold the F/O's hand when they turn on the lights over the next couple of years?
The irony is that pilots who talk like you do are usually the ones that absolutely s#$K the most... but they are too arrogant to realize it.
You really are special. And I don't mean the good kind.
09-27-2011, 08:28 AM
#34
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 114
Why were the UA pilots the only ones that needed a checklist to do a fuel balance? We can't even do what other crews flying the same plane did in a normal op without screwing it up. The talent pool has been tainted significantly over the years. Just take a peak at a planning table for a PEK or HKG trip.
Maybe you can't teach really old dogs new tricks. Perhaps they can get someone to come out and hold your hand and tell you everything is going to be okay. Should they give everybody a trophy for completing the training? Just like the kids in T-Ball. "There are no loser's here. You guys are all great".
L
Maybe you can't teach really old dogs new tricks. Perhaps they can get someone to come out and hold your hand and tell you everything is going to be okay. Should they give everybody a trophy for completing the training? Just like the kids in T-Ball. "There are no loser's here. You guys are all great".
L
Since you have such a low opinion of your fellow UA pilot's abilities, do you fly all the legs on your trips? Tell the F/O not to touch anything? Never take a break from the cockpit?
It would be interesting to know how many F/Os have your file # on their PBS "avoid fly with" list.
09-27-2011, 03:06 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B737 CAPT IAH
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You really are a piece of work. I'd be happy to compare resumes and training records with you anytime Ace. I came from the single seat fighter community (as did 90% of my new hire class 16 years ago) and don't need anyone to hold my hand, nor do I need a knucklehead like you to move the gear and flap handles, when you get right down to it. But we divide the cockpit tasks because we have more than our own safety at stake, a concept you can't seem to get into your thick skull.
Since you have such a low opinion of your fellow UA pilot's abilities, do you fly all the legs on your trips? Tell the F/O not to touch anything? Never take a break from the cockpit?
It would be interesting to know how many F/Os have your file # on their PBS "avoid fly with" list.
Since you have such a low opinion of your fellow UA pilot's abilities, do you fly all the legs on your trips? Tell the F/O not to touch anything? Never take a break from the cockpit?
It would be interesting to know how many F/Os have your file # on their PBS "avoid fly with" list.
Lee
09-27-2011, 04:56 PM
#36
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