Questions for CAL pilots..
#21
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#23
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iadfo,
How it works is this:
If you are short-call reserve (B reserve), you can aggressive pickup 1200-1300 local base time. Say you see that four-day trip in open time with a 1200 report time/1300 departure and pick it up. Since you are a B reserve, you will then have to check your schedule again at 1500 LBT to see if scheduling added a call block prior to your show time. It is up to scheduling to look at the trip you picked up and see what call block will work for you to be on call and still legally complete that day. I have had it happen where my first day was long enough that they did not give me a call block before report. However, that is rare so you will most likely get a call block prior to the trip you picked up.
In the example you gave with a 1200 show/1300 departure and scheduled rest starting at 2100, scheduling might give you a call block on your master schedule that shows 0800-1159 LBT. That would mean on call from 8AM until your trip report time. Your duty day would begin at 0800. And, yes, you need to make sure you plan your commute to be in position at the beginning of your reserve call block.
How it works is this:
If you are short-call reserve (B reserve), you can aggressive pickup 1200-1300 local base time. Say you see that four-day trip in open time with a 1200 report time/1300 departure and pick it up. Since you are a B reserve, you will then have to check your schedule again at 1500 LBT to see if scheduling added a call block prior to your show time. It is up to scheduling to look at the trip you picked up and see what call block will work for you to be on call and still legally complete that day. I have had it happen where my first day was long enough that they did not give me a call block before report. However, that is rare so you will most likely get a call block prior to the trip you picked up.
In the example you gave with a 1200 show/1300 departure and scheduled rest starting at 2100, scheduling might give you a call block on your master schedule that shows 0800-1159 LBT. That would mean on call from 8AM until your trip report time. Your duty day would begin at 0800. And, yes, you need to make sure you plan your commute to be in position at the beginning of your reserve call block.
"A" reserve has slightly different rules for the first day of your reserve block.
Sec 25.11.6.c
“A” Reserves that pickup in the aggressive window will be released to their Pairing nine (9) hours prior to report, except that “A” Reserves that pickup Trips that begin on the first day of their reserve block will have no phone availability obligation prior to Pairing origination.
liquid
#24
It will be interesting when the UAL pilots flying at CAL start posting their comparisons between the two operations. I can't help but think that will harden resolve on both sides.
#25
PBS sucks even if you are number 1 because of the user interface. Vote no on any contract that has Carmen PBS as our bidding software.
All PBS lovers at CAL should go work for management
I have heard a rumor that the UAL system honors seniority. UAL Pilots I hope you are listening, ask your reps about what system they are negotiating for. CAL pilots need your help to ensure we have a bidding system that honors seniority at the combined company, once again the CAL bidding system does not honor seniority, look at our contract section 25.PBS.
Flame that PBS LOVERS!
#26
Flying: You must be able to push in 3 hours from notification. So get a call at 0827, then you have to report no earlier than 1027 and have to be able to push no earlier than 1127.
Deadheading: You have 2 1/2 hours from notification to push. Get a call with a DH first leg at 0827, still have a 1027 show with a push of 1057 at the earliest.
Make sense?
#27
Originally Posted by liquid
Just to add: B reserves who aggressive pick up trip can have that paring/id removed from their schedule and put on a call window. This is solely at the discretion of crew scheduling and yes it happens. I would not count on aggressive picking up a paring/id on B reserve and keeping it. Our scheduling department operates in crisis management mode at all times as we are severely understaffed.
#28
All short call reserves are two hours from notification to airport report. If you are flying a flight you have an hour from that to push. If you are deadheading, your report time will be 1/2 hour before push.
Flying: You must be able to push in 3 hours from notification. So get a call at 0827, then you have to report no earlier than 1027 and have to be able to push no earlier than 1127.
Deadheading: You have 2 1/2 hours from notification to push. Get a call with a DH first leg at 0827, still have a 1027 show with a push of 1057 at the earliest.
Make sense?
Flying: You must be able to push in 3 hours from notification. So get a call at 0827, then you have to report no earlier than 1027 and have to be able to push no earlier than 1127.
Deadheading: You have 2 1/2 hours from notification to push. Get a call with a DH first leg at 0827, still have a 1027 show with a push of 1057 at the earliest.
Make sense?
11. A “B” Reserve Pilot must be phone available during his specified phone availability period and must be able to effectuate a block out (including Deadhead) within three (3) hours from initial notification.
Last edited by APC225; 09-20-2011 at 02:11 PM.
#29
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I would say that is possible during the summer or during major weather events (which with EWR seems to be a cloud in the sky ). However, that is rare, but it does happen. Hence the reason scheduling assigns a call block prior to pairing origination for most B reserves. If a trip is aggressively picked up, it disappears from the open time list so it can't just be taken by someone trying to trip trade or those CAreer opportunists who hope to pad their wallets.
I hear ya. I just didn't want the guy to pick up a trip and plan his commute based on the show time of that trip. Yes the trip disappears from open time, but scheduling can still throw it back into open time to "ping" the cell phones of those trying to pad their wallets. "A" reserve is really the only true way to keep that paring... on the first day of course
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#30
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Thanks for the responses. Wondering a couple of other things. The offer letter does not specify what the cost is for our share of medical, dental and vision. Also, does CO pay for any portion of disability insurance, or do we pay for it? If so, how much does it run?
Also, what is the minimum guarantee for lineholders? (when/if that time comes.). And how ugly is it for mixed lineholders (UAL doesn't have that btw) and bottom lineholders?
Thanks
Also, what is the minimum guarantee for lineholders? (when/if that time comes.). And how ugly is it for mixed lineholders (UAL doesn't have that btw) and bottom lineholders?
Thanks
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