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Old 10-11-2011, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Heard Shipsets are dead for now at CAL.
I second that. Heard it saved $2m on contract to keep them updated. Why pay to have them done when you can get a pilot who gets paid $120k to volunteer to do it for free.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:06 AM
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I second that. Heard it saved $2m on contract to keep them updated. Why pay to have them done when you can get a pilot who gets paid $120k to volunteer to do it for free.
I think my back is hurting again.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:37 AM
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Heard it saved $2m on contract to keep them updated. Why pay to have them done when you can get a pilot who gets paid $120k to volunteer to do it for free.
....or pay same pilot $60k to not update them since he's on LTD.

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I think my back is hurting again.
True enough.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:39 AM
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Give me a break... Let's talk about what's going on at the LEC level in your union's west coast locals. You guys are about to be played.


That's quite a statement. Why don't you give us details on what you are talking about?
If you watch Wendy's October update video carefully, she blinks it all out in Morse code. Alternatively the message is delivered subliminally. The truth behind her allegations can easily be deciphered when you play her message back-wards. I think it's best that you follow ALPA protocol & the code of ethics and have a dialog with your rep, but let's just say that for the sake of this forum, there are allegations floating around that would be worthy of serious penalties, maybe even some prison time.

History has show ME that where there's smoke there's fire, especially when it comes to union politics. I'd really rather hear encouragement from both sides of the fence, rather than back-door attacks misstating that CAL pilots have earned the FAR contract they work under, as if to imply the UAL contract is better. Like the saying goes, "If we don't hang together, then surely, we shall all hang separately."
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:46 PM
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Wait...what was the title of this thread?

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Old 10-11-2011, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh
If you watch Wendy's October update video carefully, she blinks it all out in Morse code. Alternatively the message is delivered subliminally. The truth behind her allegations can easily be deciphered when you play her message back-wards. I think it's best that you follow ALPA protocol & the code of ethics and have a dialog with your rep, but let's just say that for the sake of this forum, there are allegations floating around that would be worthy of serious penalties, maybe even some prison time.

History has show ME that where there's smoke there's fire, especially when it comes to union politics. I'd really rather hear encouragement from both sides of the fence, rather than back-door attacks misstating that CAL pilots have earned the FAR contract they work under, as if to imply the UAL contract is better. Like the saying goes, "If we don't hang together, then surely, we shall all hang separately."
Wendy is a politician. If you are taking what she says as "the one truth", you do so at your peril. There are two sides to this story... and I HAVE talked to my reps about it.

As far as the UAL vs. CAL pilot-Johnson-sized thing, that also is political. It wasn't any fun to hear about the Wall Street rally being used to point out the differences in the CAL 777's vs. the UAL 777's either.... Just try to ignore the chaff and posturing as best you can, because none of it will matter a BIT when the time finally comes to negotiate the list. Heck, at the rate things are going, that's several YEARS from even being discussed.

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I agree Bumped! I think this is the worst thread drift I've been involved in on APC. Now back to our regularily scheduled program, iPads!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
I second that. Heard it saved $2m on contract to keep them updated. Why pay to have them done when you can get a pilot who gets paid $120k to volunteer to do it for free.
Must be talking about the CA, because I don't make that much.
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Must be talking about the CA, because I don't make that much.
Whatever our pay, we're doing this admin work for free.
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What I cannot believe is that the iPad is an issue at all especially in comparison to EVERYTHING ELSE that is on our table. The contract and the integration of the airlines and seniority lists are what is important. The people upset about the IPad reminds me of the old school UAL guys demanding a control yoke in the 777 instead of a sidestick.
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