CO Reserve & Reality
07-29-2011, 05:26 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by SlickMachine:1029736
Originally Posted by NotYet:1029610
If possible, could someone please post some actual CO reserve schedules, at maybe IAH and Guam, for 737 F/Os, and then post how those same schedules actually played out?
I've heard the stories.
Not doubting anything, just looking for facts.
I've heard the stories.
Not doubting anything, just looking for facts.
A quick description: CLE based reserve 737 FO
I traded a few immovable days to get my daughters birthday weekend off (which was pointless as those days were rolled anyway). Consequently those traded days became movable as per the elephant-sh!t contract we have. So far this month I have had a total of 6 days off rolled. This week is my 5th consecutive work block where my days have been rolled. One work block was originally scheduled as 4 days and was rolled to 7 days thanks to 24 hours in Puerto Rico. This block of days included a fatigue call out of base because scheduling caught me upon arriving from SJU- Instead of a DH home as planned, they rolled my days off and put me on day rest so I was legal to fly a BON red eye turn {augmented crew) that night at 2400= fatigued. My month isn't so bad compared to some guys who I've heard have gone as far as 13 in a row.
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07-30-2011, 11:15 AM
#24
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Position: 737 CAPT
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Short call out is 2 hours from call to airport report. 15 hour call block. 76 hours guarantee.
Long call out is 9 hours from call to airport report. Continuous on call; released for your 9 hours rest once called. 72 hour guarantee. Being an A reserve is essentially worthless as a commuter. They call you at 10pm for a 7AM check in and you don't live in driving distance of the base? Good luck.
Aggressive pick up windows occur each day 0900-1100 Local Base Time from Long Call (A) reserves and 1200-1300 LBT for short call (B) reserves.
Can only pick up a trip that matches number of days of availability, unless you are available 5+ then you may pick up 4-day trips.
An A reserve who picks up on the day prior to his reserve block is automatically released (i.e. not phone liable) until he shows for the trip.
A B reserve who picks up on the day prior to his reserve block or during his reserve block of days is still subject to a call block being assigned by scheduling to that pilot prior to his show time. Example: pick up a trip with a noon check-in, scheduling can (and often does) put you on a call block that goes from 0800-1159 as an example.
An A reserve can be converted to B reserve at scheduling's discretion.
Forgive me but what is the JRM you refer to in your post? Is that Junior Manning? What do you want to know about the policy? They can do it. If they call you and you answer your phone and are available they can make you fly something, but junior manning doesn't apply to reserves. The key word is "available." All the contract says is that you have to be available to be junior manned. You don't have to have an explanation if you are not available. You just have to say "I'm unavailable for that assignment." Then again you could also not answer your phone which prevents that from happening too.
08-04-2011, 11:09 AM
#26
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This is taken from another board. De-identified as much as I could. It gives you an idea what reserve is at CAL.
Can someone tell me to whom to call in ALPA (a number) to report when your days are rolled, which is basically every day till you are illegal, which seems to be never here??? Also, how on earth is it legal to give you double duty days. And this 24 hour layover exemption in an international destination is ridiculous. Example..... Flew the xxx-xxx-xxx, redeyes both ways. Scheduled for 3 days with 2 movable days off following. Finish the trip at 0530 in xxx. Land to find my days have been rolled and double duty with no sleep that night. I now have 9 hours of rest to report back in the afternoon to fly Xxx-xxx-xxx finishing 3 am. 13 hours of flight time in 24 hours. Ended my sixth day with yet another modification on my pairing. It of course was rolled as well. On one of my deadheads from xxx to xxx, the Pilot calls in fatigued so I now get pulled from my seat in first class to fly it. I told crew coordination that I definitely knew the feeling! 5 hours later end up in Xxx due to ground stops, thunderstorms, medical emergencies, and system failures on the flight. Finally, I get released in Xxx on day 6 because of 30 in 7 (And believe me they tried everything possible to find me another trip. Oh, and to start day 1 get to fly the redeye to Xxx. And this is just typical of every time I start a stretch of days of work......So, now I'm at home, finally, for my 2 days off with an awful headcold because I'm worn ragged! On my way to the doctor to get my doctor's note ......
08-04-2011, 12:25 PM
#27
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Position: 737 Cap
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08-04-2011, 07:14 PM
#28
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Wait.....can I take it (the job offer) and then when it gets rediculously bad, tell the company to ki$$ it, and wait for UAL to recall? Because, there is no jeopardy in that! Other than being re-unemployed for a bit longer.
Maybe that will help send a message to management that we are not going to work like slaves anymore. That is such unbelievable treatment of professional pilots that have a world of responsibility on their shoulders day in and day out. We can't be treated that way. Fatigued, abused, it's just plain dangerous. How did we even get such work rules?????
It is time for change.
Mr. Mom out......
08-05-2011, 06:50 AM
#29
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Position: A320 F/O
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I hear the frustration in some of the CAL reserve voices. Rolling moveable reserve days until you are illegal.
Simple solution for some. It's called the Air National Guard or AF Reserve where YOU can control your schedule AND your airline reserve schedule!!!
Simple solution for some. It's called the Air National Guard or AF Reserve where YOU can control your schedule AND your airline reserve schedule!!!
08-16-2011, 06:15 PM
#30
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