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Old 06-09-2011, 08:24 AM
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Oh wait a moment...

  • Los Angeles - Hilo, Hawaii - - daily service operated by Continental Airlines.
  • San Francisco - Hilo, Hawaii - - weekly service operated by Continental Airlines beginning June 11.

  • San Francisco - Guadalajara, Mexico - - daily service operated by Continental Airlines.
  • San Francisco - Idaho Falls, Idaho - - daily United Express service operated by SkyWest Airlines.
  • New York/Newark Liberty - Port-au-Prince, Haiti - - three-times-weekly service operated by Continental Airlines. Daily service effective July 1.
  • New York/Newark Liberty-Stuttgart, Germany - - daily service operated by Continental Airlines.

FLIGHTS FROM NEW YORK, LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO CONTINUE NETWORK OPTIMIZATION OF THE COMBINED CARRIER

I just feel so "optimized" this morning!
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:52 AM
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These were announced a long time ago. Nothing new here.
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While you're at it throw in:
DEN - HNL Continental (taken from United Crews by Management)
DEN - ANC -Continental (taken from United Crews by Management)

New Continental 737 LAX Domicile - (all flying taken from United crews by Management)

If you guys stop this cross flying a JCBA will happen if not this stuff will just keep on. Look at USAir!
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
While you're at it throw in:
DEN - HNL Continental (taken from United Crews by Management)
DEN - ANC -Continental (taken from United Crews by Management)

New Continental 737 LAX Domicile - (all flying taken from United crews by Management)

If you guys stop this cross flying a JCBA will happen if not this stuff will just keep on. Look at USAir!
While you're at it:
IAH-LIM United (taken away from CAL crews)
HNL-GUM United (taken away from CAL crews)
GUM-NRT United (taken away from CAL crews)
EWR-many Europe destinations United (taken away from CAL crews)

You see it works both ways. It's time for us to be United pilots vs Management instead of United pilots vs CAL pilots vs Management. Until then there is only one winner and it's not the pilots. The sooner we get an industry leading contract the sooner the flying is done by all of the pilots and the furloughs start coming back.
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You morons, its called a merger. They move aircraft around to fit the market. It's all UAL flying now. Get a life.
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Otto...

You obviously miss the point here. If you want a contract then the only thing which talks is economics! So if you think CAL/UAL should cross fly without a contract and integrated seniority list then you are the "moron."

Management will just keep doing what they want and ignore the contract negotiations if THERE IS NO ECONOMIC PENALTY to them. Get the message!

You want all happy UAL flying then stand together and say NO to cross flying until a JCBA is accomplish!

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David W:

"It's time for us to be United pilots vs Management instead of United pilots vs CAL pilots vs Management."

Then call your council rep and say NO to the cross flying! That's how you send a message to Management, not some stupid individual tactic.
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
You morons, its called a merger. They move aircraft around to fit the market. It's all UAL flying now. Get a life.
And we wonder why CAL is so short on pilots and UAL has soooo many. Let me see who is flying ORD-FLL nowadays? It isn't UAX anymore.

Sorry Otto, if you lost your job or are facing delayed UAL recall due this shift of flying it is your life and it is a little hard to get over.

We are being played.

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Not to mention the idiotic TPA which will allow smisek to furlough more UAL geeks as the flying shifts to CAL. If you had stripes on your tie you might not take such a cavalier approach.

He wants to ***** slap us. It's part of the deal he worked out with tilton. Corp America and UAL in particular hates organized labor. They're still paying us back for the ESOP and C2000.
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Originally Posted by kc135driver
And we wonder why CAL is so short on pilots and UAL has soooo many. Let me see who is flying ORD-FLL nowadays? It isn't UAX anymore.

Sorry Otto, if you lost your job or are facing delayed UAL recall due this shift of flying it is your life and it is a little hard to get over.

We are being played.

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And there are those who are more than happy to play along. UFB
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