Remember: We need to be fair to the company
07-03-2011, 09:45 AM
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: B777 FO
Posts: 240
I'm not going to argue all your points...but I do want to mention the health insurance. UAL ALPA paid my COBRA payments for 18 months when I first went out on furlough. At the time, I couldn't find a job to save my life. UAL ALPA sent me a check every month for about $1500 to reimburse me for my payments. It was a stressful enough time looking for work without the additional stress of worrying whether my family is taken care of if they got sick or injured.
I personally thank every United pilot I see for the Furlough fund when I non-rev. Say what you want about the Union, but from my experience...they have been nothing but helpful to me.
I personally thank every United pilot I see for the Furlough fund when I non-rev. Say what you want about the Union, but from my experience...they have been nothing but helpful to me.
07-03-2011, 09:20 PM
#42
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: A320 Cap
Posts: 2,282
Wow. Glad to see anyone with an opinion is a threat at the new UAL. You guys have been ****ed on so long, you'll take your frustrations out on anyone that doesn't goose step right along with you. Since this is becoming a CAL vs UAL argument, what protections, pray tell, does the UAL contract have for its furloughees? How have any of you reduced the suffering of your 1400+ guys on the street? How much money did the UAL pilots raise each year at xmas for the furloughed pilots? What assessment did the UAL pilots take up so that the furloughed pilots health care was paid for? What is the current flight hour limit at UAL? Yeah, I know, your all only flying 20 hours a month but what else have you done? *****ing about some guy working 5 more hours certainly isn't fixing it. How many of you printed the "contract" out, wrote hell no on it and gave to your CP? Do you honestly think that UAL furloughed 1400+ guys because of pilots flying over 75 or 85 hours? How about your senior WB pilots selling your NB pilots down the river. Or could it possibly be that you have no scope protection. And then the scab label. Nice.
07-03-2011, 09:22 PM
#43
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: A320 Cap
Posts: 2,282
I'm not going to argue all your points...but I do want to mention the health insurance. UAL ALPA paid my COBRA payments for 18 months when I first went out on furlough. At the time, I couldn't find a job to save my life. UAL ALPA sent me a check every month for about $1500 to reimburse me for my payments. It was a stressful enough time looking for work without the additional stress of worrying whether my family is taken care of if they got sick or injured.
I personally thank every United pilot I see for the Furlough fund when I non-rev. Say what you want about the Union, but from my experience...they have been nothing but helpful to me.
I personally thank every United pilot I see for the Furlough fund when I non-rev. Say what you want about the Union, but from my experience...they have been nothing but helpful to me.
07-04-2011, 03:01 AM
#44
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Furlough/Gun Driver
Posts: 437
I too would like to extend my grattitude to the active UAL pilots paying into the furlough fund. It has allowed me to keep my family insured over the past several years and taken some of the sting out of what the company did.
07-05-2011, 08:41 AM
#45
New Hire
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB-120 FO
Posts: 2
The UAL furlough fund was a critical piece of my financial puzzle when I was first sent out on furlough. I too take every chance I get to thank every mainline pilot I see for taking care of my family for that first year. The men and women of UAL who gave up their pay for me have my continuing gratitude. Thanks All!
P.S. Scope, then pay.......(Oh, and pay longevity for furlough time please!)
P.S. Scope, then pay.......(Oh, and pay longevity for furlough time please!)
07-05-2011, 08:48 AM
#46
Gets Rolled on the Reg.
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 274
It's really nice to hear the stories where these funds helped.
If you furloughed guys ever heard about line guys balking at it,
imho it was more out of a concern you'd actually get all the funds vs.
it going in some adjacent alpa coffer. Glad to have made some sort
of positive difference for you guys. Now we just need to get you the
option to come back and have longevity credit. We haven't forgotten.
If you furloughed guys ever heard about line guys balking at it,
imho it was more out of a concern you'd actually get all the funds vs.
it going in some adjacent alpa coffer. Glad to have made some sort
of positive difference for you guys. Now we just need to get you the
option to come back and have longevity credit. We haven't forgotten.
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