Questions about 787s at UAL/CAL
06-07-2011, 12:05 PM
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06-07-2011, 12:38 PM
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Go figure....Who would have guessed that the "E" vs "L" would have made 'all' the difference.
Don Phillips
International Herald Tribune
11-11-2005
Breaking an aviation distance record set 43 years ago by a B-52 bomber, a new long-range Boeing 777 flew more than halfway around the world nonstop Thursday in 22 hours and 42 minutes. One hundred years after the Wright Brothers established the tradition of official distance records with a 25-minute flight in a puttering biplane, the flight demonstrated that for the first time that a new generation of jetliners will leave no two cities on earth beyond a nonstop flight. The new plane, a Boeing 777-200LR, loaded with fuel in every tank, entered the Guinness Book of World Records by flying 11,664 nautical miles from Hong Kong to London.
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06-07-2011, 12:42 PM
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I believe what your hinting at regarding the LAX-SYD leg at 'maybe' true using the UAL B777-200ER, but as recent as 2005, the B777-200LR holds the title of "world's longest range commercial aircraft" without refueling....22Hrs+ worth. Ironically enough, the previous record holder on the above mentioned title was B747-400 (London-SYD 10,500) back in 1989.
Go figure....Who would have guessed that the "E" vs "L" would have made 'all' the difference.
Don Phillips
International Herald Tribune
11-11-2005
Breaking an aviation distance record set 43 years ago by a B-52 bomber, a new long-range Boeing 777 flew more than halfway around the world nonstop Thursday in 22 hours and 42 minutes. One hundred years after the Wright Brothers established the tradition of official distance records with a 25-minute flight in a puttering biplane, the flight demonstrated that for the first time that a new generation of jetliners will leave no two cities on earth beyond a nonstop flight. The new plane, a Boeing 777-200LR, loaded with fuel in every tank, entered the Guinness Book of World Records by flying 11,664 nautical miles from Hong Kong to London.
Go figure....Who would have guessed that the "E" vs "L" would have made 'all' the difference.
Don Phillips
International Herald Tribune
11-11-2005
Breaking an aviation distance record set 43 years ago by a B-52 bomber, a new long-range Boeing 777 flew more than halfway around the world nonstop Thursday in 22 hours and 42 minutes. One hundred years after the Wright Brothers established the tradition of official distance records with a 25-minute flight in a puttering biplane, the flight demonstrated that for the first time that a new generation of jetliners will leave no two cities on earth beyond a nonstop flight. The new plane, a Boeing 777-200LR, loaded with fuel in every tank, entered the Guinness Book of World Records by flying 11,664 nautical miles from Hong Kong to London.
06-07-2011, 01:12 PM
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Hope all has been well.
06-07-2011, 01:36 PM
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Not quite 6 times, looks like 2.3 times is more like it!
06-07-2011, 04:05 PM
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Great. Blame it on labor.
William Swelbar, a research engineer at MIT's International Center for Air Transportation, said discord over pilot seniority rankings could be hampering progress of contract talks.
Employees with high seniority get first choice on vacations and fly the biggest planes that come with the best pay rates.
Pilots themselves decide how to interlace their seniority lists, so it's not on the agenda in contract talks with the company. Separate seniority discussions between the pilot groups won't start until they reach a joint contract with the airline, the union said.
But Swelbar suspects that seniority is insinuating its way into contract negotiations because work rules inevitably bear on questions of pay and rank.
For example, United has about 300 captains who fly wide-bodied jumbo 747-400s. Continental has no comparable plane.
"United's going to want to protect that wide-bodied flying for itself," Swelbar said.
Continental, United pilots say joint contract is nowhere near done | cleveland.com
Employees with high seniority get first choice on vacations and fly the biggest planes that come with the best pay rates.
Pilots themselves decide how to interlace their seniority lists, so it's not on the agenda in contract talks with the company. Separate seniority discussions between the pilot groups won't start until they reach a joint contract with the airline, the union said.
But Swelbar suspects that seniority is insinuating its way into contract negotiations because work rules inevitably bear on questions of pay and rank.
For example, United has about 300 captains who fly wide-bodied jumbo 747-400s. Continental has no comparable plane.
"United's going to want to protect that wide-bodied flying for itself," Swelbar said.
Continental, United pilots say joint contract is nowhere near done | cleveland.com
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06-07-2011, 08:36 PM
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William Swelbar, a research engineer at MIT's International Center for Air Transportation, said discord over pilot seniority rankings could be hampering progress of contract talks.
Employees with high seniority get first choice on vacations and fly the biggest planes that come with the best pay rates.
Pilots themselves decide how to interlace their seniority lists, so it's not on the agenda in contract talks with the company. Separate seniority discussions between the pilot groups won't start until they reach a joint contract with the airline, the union said.
But Swelbar suspects that seniority is insinuating its way into contract negotiations because work rules inevitably bear on questions of pay and rank.
For example, United has about 300 captains who fly wide-bodied jumbo 747-400s. Continental has no comparable plane.
"United's going to want to protect that wide-bodied flying for itself," Swelbar said.
Continental, United pilots say joint contract is nowhere near done | cleveland.com
Employees with high seniority get first choice on vacations and fly the biggest planes that come with the best pay rates.
Pilots themselves decide how to interlace their seniority lists, so it's not on the agenda in contract talks with the company. Separate seniority discussions between the pilot groups won't start until they reach a joint contract with the airline, the union said.
But Swelbar suspects that seniority is insinuating its way into contract negotiations because work rules inevitably bear on questions of pay and rank.
For example, United has about 300 captains who fly wide-bodied jumbo 747-400s. Continental has no comparable plane.
"United's going to want to protect that wide-bodied flying for itself," Swelbar said.
Continental, United pilots say joint contract is nowhere near done | cleveland.com
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06-08-2011, 07:10 AM
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UAL 113 (210 IF you want to include 757s)
CAL 46 (108 IF again you include the 757s)...two 767-200s sold, btw.
2.45:1 or 1.94:1
Just the facts please.
06-08-2011, 07:17 PM
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