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Old 06-07-2011, 06:22 AM
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Is that factored using the Pythagorean Theorem, or just straight up Quadratic Formula???
Now that was funny
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:40 AM
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"CAL mgt has been on record saying the 747 is too large for our route structure and they cannot consistently fill the airplane"
Why is this shocking? Everyone knows it's better to run a 50-seat RJ eight times a day instead of a 737 three times a day. If it isn't smaller than a 735 than in the Continental world it is too big for our route structure.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:44 AM
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So they say the 747 is too large for our route structure, the largest route structure in the world. Only small route structures can support the 747? I would love to see the numbers behind that statement by them.
I guess that's why the Japanese fly 747s in domestic service.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:30 AM
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I think the whole 400 argument is a canard. The plane simply does stuff that the 777 cannot do. With UCAL's significant footprint in the Pacific, and with our current load factor I don't believe the argument that we can't fill it.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dogger
Check the 8K filings. The CAL 787's are growth a/c and the UAL 350's are replacement. That will be a factor!
Not quite. Today there is no official plan to park 767's. So today the 787 is looked at as a growth aircraft. When they decide to start parking 767s in the future or any other fleet type then abracadabra all 787s are replacement.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I think the whole 400 argument is a canard. The plane simply does stuff that the 777 cannot do. With UCAL's significant footprint in the Pacific, and with our current load factor I don't believe the argument that we can't fill it.
They will find a way to kill it... guaranteed.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I think the whole 400 argument is a canard. The plane simply does stuff that the 777 cannot do. With UCAL's significant footprint in the Pacific, and with our current load factor I don't believe the argument that we can't fill it.
There you have it. How much etops fuel does a 777 land with in SYD after having flown from LAX? How much revenue is bumped due to the etops fuel requirements?
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
UAL Guys can plan on being fenced out of the 787 until the SLI agreement allows them to fly the CAL ordered 787s. History of other integrations indicate it may be a very long time before UAL pilots get to fly CAL 787s.

Don't forget UAL has 787s (and Airbuses) ordered in the future and that may change the color of the integration a little, but probably not a lot.
And I can ony guess that the CAL guys will be stuck on all the narrow guage aircraft they have.....UAL has six time more widebodies than CAL,
so dont press that fence idea very hard...
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
There you have it. How much etops fuel does a 777 land with in SYD after having flown from LAX? How much revenue is bumped due to the etops fuel requirements?
If you are talking the 777LR it is much better then the 747 at very long ranges. The 747 is actually better at mid range flights where they can fill all the seats and carry cargo. At extreme ranges it can't do that but the 777 LR can do it easily.
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
There you have it. How much etops fuel does a 777 land with in SYD after having flown from LAX? How much revenue is bumped due to the etops fuel requirements?
The 777LR can fill the tanks and fill the seats and cargo and go point to point most anywhere in the world. Truly amazing machine.
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