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Old 05-03-2011, 09:08 AM
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Yep. Md-80. Md 90 whatever it takes. ( mr mom)
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
In the eyes of the bean counters it is. For those of us on the line AHHH we get overs stopping in MCI for gas on an eastbound transcon from SAN...
Wow; does it really have an issue doing something like SAN-EWR? Is that because of takeoff limitations at SAN or something?

EWR-LAX/SFO/SEA okay in the winter against strong headwinds?
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:37 PM
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Wow; does it really have an issue doing something like SAN-EWR? Is that because of takeoff limitations at SAN or something?

EWR-LAX/SFO/SEA okay in the winter against strong headwinds?
Yep. It is a runway pig to say the least. Barely got out of DEN last week going to EWR after they closed 34L on the taxi out. It was a pleasent 61 degrees with wind straight out of the north. We do have a fair share of fuel stops in the winter, but probably not many more then the Bus. Long story short, management thinks it's a 757 replacement. Reality is it's not on 1:1 basis.
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:47 PM
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All I do is 737-800/900 transcons. I've never had a fuel stop. It does eat runway though. I'm tired of rotating on the opposite end numbers. While it is a domestic replacement for the 757, it will never perform like a 757.
737-900ER = 173 seats (less cost, less gas = more money for Jeffy)
757-200 = 175 seats
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
All I do is 737-800/900 transcons. I've never had a fuel stop. It does eat runway though. I'm tired of rotating on the opposite end numbers. While it is a domestic replacement for the 757, it will never perform like a 757.
737-900ER = 173 seats (less cost, less gas = more money for Jeffy)
757-200 = 175 seats
Well as long as Jeff is happy, I mean that's what (he thinks) you're all here for, right?
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Old 05-03-2011, 07:51 PM
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"but probably not many more then the Bus."

Flew a320 Cap for two years and never made a fuel stop.
As a 737-300 Cap did one fuel stop, BOS - DEN.

The most restrictive 320 flight I ever did, fuel wise, was SNA - ORD in winter with fuel for alternate. Short runway and full pax load, still made it with a 30 minute hold for ORD. SEA - IAD? No sweat.

767 - 300 ferried fuel from IAD - LAX, full load of people and landed with 60,000 pounds of fuel on board. Someone thought it was cheaper to haul fuel one day to LAX.

737-900ER, from what you guys say, where's the ER part?

War stories But, we get paid to fly em "safe" and someone else decides which airplanes.
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
All I do is 737-800/900 transcons. I've never had a fuel stop. It does eat runway though. I'm tired of rotating on the opposite end numbers. While it is a domestic replacement for the 757, it will never perform like a 757.
737-900ER = 173 seats (less cost, less gas = more money for Jeffy)
757-200 = 175 seats
I did an entire month of SJO-EWR when we first started getting the 900ER's. Loaded up on peeps and then dropped into Libera for gas. Hey one stop service ain't bad! Wonderful month for my paycheck, not so much for the commute. Had to chuckle at the bean counter that assumed we could 'make it work'. Back to 800's the following month and as you probably know now it's partly a 75 trip in peak season.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:28 AM
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ER stands for Enhanced Revenue
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:51 AM
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Just curious guys/gals. I flew the 737-300/500 for a while.

Is the APU any better on the ground for cooling/heating on the NGs? The restriction on the -300/500 from what I remember was only 1 pack turned on while on the ground with only the APU running. Can you turn the packs to high in flight on the NG or still just "auto"?

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Old 05-04-2011, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FACSofLife
Just curious guys/gals. I flew the 737-300/500 for a while.

Is the APU any better on the ground for cooling/heating on the NGs? The restriction on the -300/500 from what I remember was only 1 pack turned on while on the ground with only the APU running. Can you turn the packs to high in flight on the NG or still just "auto"?

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On the NGs, when the APU is running on the ground, both packs can be operated in the HIGH position to cool (or warm as the case may be) the cabin. It is essential in during the summer, esp. in IAH.

As far as the "ER" designation goes for the -900, I think there is a misconception out there. It has nothing to do with range. Per the company the terms used interchangeably are:

Extra Rows (some of us commuters like to call them Employee Rows)

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Enhanced Revenue (as was mentioned above).
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