AxlF16

Hypothetically....

If I were a 767 FO making ~$110/hr.... and fuel costs $3.75/gal....and fuel weighs 6.5lb/gal....then an overburn of ~75lb/hr is the equivalent cost to the company as a 40% pay raise. That would mean somewhere about 175lb/hr overburn is the equivalent of a 40% raise for the Capt & FO.

Of course I would never advocate doing anything like this. I'm merely pointing out our compensation relative to the price of fuel -- not the fact that we have our hands on the throttles...

jsled

and on the APU switch, gear handle, recirc fan.......

point eight four.......

B U R N

SoCalGuy

Wouldn't have anything to do with "Burn TWO for Tilton" would it??

AxlF16

The first time I heard of that phrase was during the court hearings regarding the Temporary Injunction. That was one of the companies 'arrows' they used against us. The fact that it was taken seriously just goes to show how heavily the deck was stacked against us. Any objective thinking person could see through the BS of the "Tilton Two". First, it's not new. Second, it could be reasonably seen as the result of the companies increasing pressure to decrease our fuel loads without 'buy in' from the pilots. The 'two' is because in most cases that is the amount of fuel the Captian can add without having to contact dispatch. It is not uncommon to see 2000lb fuel adds. Heck, on my last trip we added 1500-2000lbs on each of the 5 legs. We needed most of it for altitude flexibility (mod turb/chop above FL290), unplanned holding, and weather deviations. On one leg I noticed that the dispatcher didn't include an alternate when one was required!! The bean counters may think unplanned fuel diversions are 'not a failure', but I'd rather have an extra 15-20 minutes of fuel and avoid the diversion. Sorry for going off topic

jsled

I like it!! Two For Tilton, Eight Four Smisek!!!!

A320

We should have a "Go Around For Glenn Day"