CAL GUYS, whats up with the 70's in EWR?
03-22-2011, 07:12 AM
#22
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Folks it's pretty clear IAHd-bag flyer is either a flamer or so super ecstatic about his current place in life that he is a guaranteed YES vote. Thus I no longer waste the bandwidth responding to him. Certain people in this career will always roll over when management coddles them. Most like he was a victim of too many swirlies in high school so being a big jet capt helps heal the pathetic past.
03-22-2011, 05:27 PM
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03-22-2011, 05:50 PM
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"Capt Stivala"......
You 'sold' your retard sandwiches "OH SO WELL" while literally sitting on mgt's side of negotiating table during CBA'02. The mentality that you preach/advocate has literally damaged mainline jobs/flying for ALL to see.
FYI....You are now miles beyond south of being 'the minority'....Good luck on your present day crusade.
You 'sold' your retard sandwiches "OH SO WELL" while literally sitting on mgt's side of negotiating table during CBA'02. The mentality that you preach/advocate has literally damaged mainline jobs/flying for ALL to see.
FYI....You are now miles beyond south of being 'the minority'....Good luck on your present day crusade.
03-23-2011, 06:06 AM
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BTW, can we put the "right sizing" arguments to rest, too?
03-23-2011, 08:05 PM
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Unfortunately, I've pretty much accepted that our beloved "guppies" are destined to be future cans of beer. I just hope it's good beer - not the cheap stuff. As far as giving the "right sizing" argument a rest- I suppose
03-24-2011, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
Unfortunately, I've pretty much accepted that our beloved "guppies" are destined to be future cans of beer. I just hope it's good beer - not the cheap stuff.
04-05-2011, 11:26 AM
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Gotta get a kick out of the "fact" that CAL parked MD-80s, because they were no longer profitable. A few years latter Allegiant starts up; only flies "some days" each week and then makes a consistently productive mining operation of markets that CAL management ran from, using equipment that they had deemed outdated and unprofitable.
I just wish they really made beer cans out of old airliners.
I just wish they really made beer cans out of old airliners.
04-05-2011, 11:52 AM
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I don't necessarily disagree with that point. But, to take it a step further, if all those parked UAL 735s are owned, wouldn't the company do even better to park our leased ones as they come up, and replace them with the ones in the desert? No money going out to a lessor, so adds to the profit/bottom line, right? Then again, maybe my crayon financial calculations aren't as crisp as others could explain.
BTW, can we put the "right sizing" arguments to rest, too?
BTW, can we put the "right sizing" arguments to rest, too?
Would you be opposed to having those planes in the desert come back to the UAL side so some of us can have our jobs back?
04-05-2011, 01:39 PM
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The difference between the two is the variable of the lessor. What happens when an airline wants to return an aircraft early and the lessor says "NO," or "NO WAY" without significant penalties, or if the actual lease agreement states that the aircraft must remain in revenue service? (And yes I have experienced those cases with aircraft leasing companies.)
On the other hand an airline has virtually unlimited options with owned aircraft.
In the case of CAL it seems pretty odd that the 300's would go and some the 500's would remain if the 500's are the more expensive aircraft (on a CASM basis) unless there was some external factor, no?
No.
And in fairness CAL also experienced significant "right-sizing" with the parked CAL 737's.
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