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Old 02-27-2011, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by B727gypsy
If Sonny is a two time furloughed pilot he won't getting 12th year pay at UAL. Unlike Delta there is no pay longevity accrued on the street so even though our hire date is 12 years ago we are paid at 5th or 6th year rates depending on bypass length returning from the first furlough.
That's what is currently in the contract. I know most of us are hoping the JCBA will read something different.
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Old 02-28-2011, 04:58 AM
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That's what is currently in the contract. I know most of us are hoping the JCBA will read something different.
I like the way you are thinking. I'm on board with that approach and it would certainly change my thinking on recall.
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:40 AM
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If I get recalled to UAL....I am on the bottom

If I get recalled to CAL....I am on the bottom

What's the difference?
The difference...

IAH, EWR, CLE, and GUAM.

If don't have the misfortune of living in one of those holes it makes it less inviting to not come back to UAL.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:46 AM
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To those reading this post, I hope you aren't seeing us as being "picky" or unappreciative of the possible opportunity to get "hired" on the CAL side. I've been chasing UAL around the country for 10 years from newhire to furloughed to recalled to furloughed. If I lived near IAH or EWR maybe it would be more appealing. The biggest problem is if you go to the CAL side you will be seat frozen to a non-UAL hub (ORD/DEN/etc). Not looking forward to being on reserve, again, much less commuting to reserve for 2+ years.

If I was hired at CAL and left once recalled to UAL and that is somehow seen as selfish or sticking it to the company, I and I'm sure everybody else really wouldn't care.

Bottom line, this is mgmt's problem. Ideally THEY have the power to recall on both sides at the same time (its called balancing the flying instead of take it out in the hides of the 1437). Dealing with the inefficiencies of any other approach, with a new JCBA or not is inconsequential.

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UAL sucks and I have the pay stubs to prove it.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
The difference...

IAH, EWR, CLE, and GUAM.

If don't have the misfortune of living in one of those holes it makes it less inviting to not come back to UAL.

Show me any CITY in the US that isn't a "hole".
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:29 PM
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UAL sucks and I have the pay stubs to prove it.
So you are going to leave then ... you are senior to me and I'd love to move up the list.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:24 PM
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Hahah, well, not likely. But if I win the lotto, or marry well, I'm outa here. You're not related to glen tilton are you?
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
Show me any CITY in the US that isn't a "hole".
Some are deeper than others however.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Hahah, well, not likely. But if I win the lotto, or marry well, I'm outa here. You're not related to glen tilton are you?
If you are junior you can't say you haven't seen other jobs out there you could have tried for. Delta hired recently, Airtran was hiring recently and a few other places would have allowed you to demonstrate your talents.

That is if you are willing to do something about your situation. If UAL isn't for you then don't be miserable. Get a divorce and move on. Some marriages just don't work and this one may not be for you.
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