New UAL "Flight Plan"?
02-27-2011, 06:50 PM
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If Sonny is a two time furloughed pilot he won't getting 12th year pay at UAL. Unlike Delta there is no pay longevity accrued on the street so even though our hire date is 12 years ago we are paid at 5th or 6th year rates depending on bypass length returning from the first furlough.
02-28-2011, 05:58 AM
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02-28-2011, 06:40 AM
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If I get recalled to UAL....I am on the bottom
If I get recalled to CAL....I am on the bottom
What's the difference?
If I get recalled to CAL....I am on the bottom
What's the difference?
IAH, EWR, CLE, and GUAM.
If don't have the misfortune of living in one of those holes it makes it less inviting to not come back to UAL.
02-28-2011, 08:46 AM
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To those reading this post, I hope you aren't seeing us as being "picky" or unappreciative of the possible opportunity to get "hired" on the CAL side. I've been chasing UAL around the country for 10 years from newhire to furloughed to recalled to furloughed. If I lived near IAH or EWR maybe it would be more appealing. The biggest problem is if you go to the CAL side you will be seat frozen to a non-UAL hub (ORD/DEN/etc). Not looking forward to being on reserve, again, much less commuting to reserve for 2+ years.
If I was hired at CAL and left once recalled to UAL and that is somehow seen as selfish or sticking it to the company, I and I'm sure everybody else really wouldn't care.
Bottom line, this is mgmt's problem. Ideally THEY have the power to recall on both sides at the same time (its called balancing the flying instead of take it out in the hides of the 1437). Dealing with the inefficiencies of any other approach, with a new JCBA or not is inconsequential.
KC
If I was hired at CAL and left once recalled to UAL and that is somehow seen as selfish or sticking it to the company, I and I'm sure everybody else really wouldn't care.
Bottom line, this is mgmt's problem. Ideally THEY have the power to recall on both sides at the same time (its called balancing the flying instead of take it out in the hides of the 1437). Dealing with the inefficiencies of any other approach, with a new JCBA or not is inconsequential.
KC
02-28-2011, 10:41 AM
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03-02-2011, 09:19 AM
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That is if you are willing to do something about your situation. If UAL isn't for you then don't be miserable. Get a divorce and move on. Some marriages just don't work and this one may not be for you.
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