The curtain is pulled back a little more...
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I drove through Tarheel country a week ago...It was kinda scary for me I didn't realize that you guys had to be so close to the Blue Devils! I knew it was close, but not THAT close. I read the council email tonight and they say that it's not a 'loss of flying' since we're still flying the planes (albeit out of CAL pilot domicles). My concern is what will happen once we actually integrate. I've seen fences/bidding restrictions around hubs before, but that won't work in this case.
Did you hear we're changing hotels in LHR? F*ckers.
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I drove through Tarheel country a week ago...It was kinda scary for me I didn't realize that you guys had to be so close to the Blue Devils! I knew it was close, but not THAT close. I read the council email tonight and they say that it's not a 'loss of flying' since we're still flying the planes (albeit out of CAL pilot domicles). My concern is what will happen once we actually integrate. I've seen fences/bidding restrictions around hubs before, but that won't work in this case.
Did you hear we're changing hotels in LHR? F*ckers.
I drove through Tarheel country a week ago...It was kinda scary for me I didn't realize that you guys had to be so close to the Blue Devils! I knew it was close, but not THAT close. I read the council email tonight and they say that it's not a 'loss of flying' since we're still flying the planes (albeit out of CAL pilot domicles). My concern is what will happen once we actually integrate. I've seen fences/bidding restrictions around hubs before, but that won't work in this case.
Did you hear we're changing hotels in LHR? F*ckers.
The only near term benefit I can see from 777 and 767 flying shifted to sewark is a possible greater frequency of flying at Dulles. Possibly, the scenario of 2 757's subbing for a 777 would continue. This might generate more bids at Dulles and break the stagnation. The only problem is in dealing with the long term need of widebody flying. Then it's either commute or else.
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Dook? I'd buy Glenn Tilton a beer before mike krzyzewski. How's that for love? Regarding the LHR Whitehouse move, whining wins.
The only near term benefit I can see from 777 and 767 flying shifted to sewark is a possible greater frequency of flying at Dulles. Possibly, the scenario of 2 757's subbing for a 777 would continue. This might generate more bids at Dulles and break the stagnation. The only problem is in dealing with the long term need of widebody flying. Then it's either commute or else.
The only near term benefit I can see from 777 and 767 flying shifted to sewark is a possible greater frequency of flying at Dulles. Possibly, the scenario of 2 757's subbing for a 777 would continue. This might generate more bids at Dulles and break the stagnation. The only problem is in dealing with the long term need of widebody flying. Then it's either commute or else.
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StrFyr51 is just a 'bit' off on his 'facts'. Correct me if I'm wrong.....BUT a/c 101 (B757-200) is the 'oldest' one we have, and it came from Boeing 'new'.
You would be spot on.....This wouldn't have anything to do with CAL's 'close' relationship with Boeing at that time would it?? (rhetorical BTW).
Let's see....Gordon is VP with Boeing 1988-1994, then jumps over to CAL to become CEO from 1994-2004. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Bethune
Just the facts.
You would be spot on.....This wouldn't have anything to do with CAL's 'close' relationship with Boeing at that time would it?? (rhetorical BTW).
Let's see....Gordon is VP with Boeing 1988-1994, then jumps over to CAL to become CEO from 1994-2004. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Bethune
Just the facts.
Continental Not ONLY flew the EX-Eastern 757's but Flew their A300's as well. I watched them LEAVE in one color and come Back in another. The CAL Mechanics worked right Next to us in our OWN hangars at SFO On those VERY airplanes. As well as on the CAL DC-10's. They didn't fly the L1011 as I recall. And I never did know what Eastern's DC9's did except park in the Desert But Evergreen Air center at Marana Az. Was doing Bigtime Painting of Eastern's A300's and 757's And cranked them OUT like Hotcackes Where they changed the Tail Logo ball from Black to Red on the Gold Field before Lorenzo got booted out of airline managment all together!! Then Bonderman came in with Texas Pacific and also brought in Gordon Bethune and Company. The New Global Logo came in under the Bethune administration. (and frankly though I love the (blue/White) UAL "Tulip" logo, the Globe Really Is a Nice Logo with a Very simplified and Understated Paint Scheme. It lends itself to Cabin options and a full range of Colors until we settle on the Grey leather Seat Covers and some Ungodly Uglified Carpet pattern you wouldn't put in your Dog's house!).
And some Form of Blue pilot Uniforms That look like they come off the Rack a Kmart or Robert Hall. Because GOD FORBID we should EVER look like we have some "Panache" and Style!!)
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Continental Not ONLY flew the EX-Eastern 757's but Flew their A300's as well. I watched them LEAVE in one color and come Back in another. The CAL Mechanics worked right Next to us in our OWN hangars at SFO On those VERY airplanes. As well as on the CAL DC-10's. They didn't fly the L1011 as I recall. And I never did know what Eastern's DC9's did except park in the Desert But Evergreen Air center at Marana Az. Was doing Bigtime Painting of Eastern's A300's and 757's And cranked them OUT like Hotcackes Where they changed the Tail Logo ball from Black to Red on the Gold Field before Lorenzo got booted out of airline managment all together!! Then Bonderman came in with Texas Pacific and also brought in Gordon Bethune and Company. The New Global Logo came in under the Bethune administration. (and frankly though I love the (blue/White) UAL "Tulip" logo, the Globe Really Is a Nice Logo with a Very simplified and Understated Paint Scheme. It lends itself to Cabin options and a full range of Colors until we settle on the Grey leather Seat Covers and some Ungodly Uglified Carpet pattern you wouldn't put in your Dog's house!).
And some Form of Blue pilot Uniforms That look like they come off the Rack a Kmart or Robert Hall. Because GOD FORBID we should EVER look like we have some "Panache" and Style!!)
Continental Not ONLY flew the EX-Eastern 757's but Flew their A300's as well. I watched them LEAVE in one color and come Back in another. The CAL Mechanics worked right Next to us in our OWN hangars at SFO On those VERY airplanes. As well as on the CAL DC-10's. They didn't fly the L1011 as I recall. And I never did know what Eastern's DC9's did except park in the Desert But Evergreen Air center at Marana Az. Was doing Bigtime Painting of Eastern's A300's and 757's And cranked them OUT like Hotcackes Where they changed the Tail Logo ball from Black to Red on the Gold Field before Lorenzo got booted out of airline managment all together!! Then Bonderman came in with Texas Pacific and also brought in Gordon Bethune and Company. The New Global Logo came in under the Bethune administration. (and frankly though I love the (blue/White) UAL "Tulip" logo, the Globe Really Is a Nice Logo with a Very simplified and Understated Paint Scheme. It lends itself to Cabin options and a full range of Colors until we settle on the Grey leather Seat Covers and some Ungodly Uglified Carpet pattern you wouldn't put in your Dog's house!).
And some Form of Blue pilot Uniforms That look like they come off the Rack a Kmart or Robert Hall. Because GOD FORBID we should EVER look like we have some "Panache" and Style!!)
The 'new' CAL livery was introduced by Hollis Harris and not Bethune. Bethune can take credit for accelerating the painting of the fleet.
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You're re-writing history. CAL did fly a handful of EAL A-300's, but never took EAL B757's. I remember USAirways getting those airplanes ( and complaining about their condition). As a previous poster noted, CAL B757's were brand new from the factory. CAL also took a few DC9-50's but flew them only for a very short time because they didn't 'fit' with our -30's.
The 'new' CAL livery was introduced by Hollis Harris and not Bethune. Bethune can take credit for accelerating the painting of the fleet.
The 'new' CAL livery was introduced by Hollis Harris and not Bethune. Bethune can take credit for accelerating the painting of the fleet.
All correct. I flew the A-300 and yes we had a couple of EAL ones that were fitted with La Guardia Bogie profile gear. We never flew the Eastern 757's. As tailwheel said above, your incorrect on this as well as the paintjob. Delta's Hollis Harris introduced the new paint job when he came over to CAL.
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