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02-10-2011, 08:56 AM

#81

Lambourne

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Apr 2007

Position: B777 Capt

Posts: 844

Quote:

Originally Posted by throttleweenie

Ten years ago, none of us saw anything changing, but now, change is the only constant.

C/B

TW

That would be correct for things not within personal control. I don't spend money I don't have for travel. So to say I don't foresee changing my travel habits to pay for trips I can afford is not really far fetched. Perhaps I could gain a brain tumor and decide that I will finance every bit of my travel with credit cards and loans using money I don't have. But as long as I have my faculties about me, I suspect I will be able to use restrain and only pay for what I can afford or need. For all those other trips that a time line doesn't matter then I will continue to "try" and non-rev.

L

04-09-2011, 10:11 AM

#82

exualmech

On Reserve

Joined APC: Apr 2011

Position: Early out/ Retiree

Posts: 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by EWRflyr

I never said or indicated that I would keep accepting it. I said that's the way it has been at CAL. Now with this new travel policy being developed you are darned right that I want supervisors to be of equal status as all other employees. I am tired of the class system that management creates here even though they preach "working together" as the mantra that we all have jobs to do. It takes all of us to make the airline run...from the ramper on a cold snowy day to the pilot at FL350 to dispatch planning our flights to the executives (too many if you ask me) in their offices.

Now you know how we (retirees/early outs) feel!!! Board us after everybody else sucks doesn't it? That's how it was when you had management boarding before you guys! The travel pass should be based on seniority for everybody just like everything else.

04-09-2011, 11:06 AM

#83

exualmech

On Reserve

Joined APC: Apr 2011

Position: Early out/ Retiree

Posts: 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by 757Driver

Again, I do. You are no longer an active employee and retired. Not necessary to have higher priority passes just because of your DOH.

You are happy now but when you retire you will be the first one to *****.

04-09-2011, 11:19 AM

#84

757Driver

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Joined APC: Dec 2005

Position: Unbridled Enthusiasm

Posts: 2,143

Quote:

Originally Posted by exualmech

You are happy now but when you retire you will be the first one to *****.

Nope,

Won't hear a peep out of me. I'll be retired, yes retired. That means I don't have to be back at work at a certain time and I can always leave early when I need to get somewhere.

Oh yeah, I'll be retired

04-09-2011, 12:30 PM

#85

Columbia

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Joined APC: Aug 2010

Posts: 2,530

Quote:

Originally Posted by 757Driver

Exactly- I'll have plenty of time to still travel for free on my own time. In fact, I'll consider myself lucky to be able to fly for free after I no longer work.

04-09-2011, 02:05 PM

#86

iahflyr

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Joined APC: Jan 2006

Posts: 1,610

Quote:

Originally Posted by exualmech

Nope, sorry, that would be too fair. It would make too much sense. We are pilots after all. We need to sell someone out. We need to throw someone under the bus. Someone needs to get a windfall by taking from others. We need to be greedy.

This career field will continue to decline if we keep selling others out just to gain a little extra. Years of service = boarding priority. PERIOD!

04-09-2011, 04:24 PM

#87

exualmech

On Reserve

Joined APC: Apr 2011

Position: Early out/ Retiree

Posts: 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by 757Driver

Sure you are, you say that now but you will bi t c h and moan just like you are now that management get to board before you guys.

04-09-2011, 04:27 PM

#88

exualmech

On Reserve

Joined APC: Apr 2011

Position: Early out/ Retiree

Posts: 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Columbia

Exactly- I'll have plenty of time to still travel for free on my own time. In fact, I'll consider myself lucky to be able to fly for free after I no longer work.

Same with you Columbia. Why did we have to merge with you guys anyway...Lorenzo screwed with you guys now you think you can screw with us UAL retirees. I guarantee you, this policy will not pass...just wait.

04-09-2011, 04:50 PM

#89

ualheavy

Line Holder

Joined APC: Oct 2010

Posts: 88

The Baby Boomer mentality... I should go before you guys because I'm entitiled to this.

No one is entitled to anything anymore. Bring on the generational warfare.

04-09-2011, 05:58 PM

#90

Lambourne

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Apr 2007

Position: B777 Capt

Posts: 844

Quote:

Originally Posted by ualheavy

The Baby Boomer mentality... I should go before you guys because I'm entitiled to this.

No one is entitled to anything anymore. Bring on the generational warfare.

And the gummer mentality is about the same. You get vacation passes as a retiree. Aren't you on a permanent vacation anyway?

This new policy is good. Sorry it doesn't suit YOU. Funny that it is only unfair when it isn't in your favor.

L