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Old 02-08-2011, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Swin
Chris,

With the utmost respect for your belief that what ANY pilot currently says is important to management, I have to disagree.

Now, in about (fill in the blank) months, IF we are VERY CLOSE to agreement on everything except pay and/or scope (which is what I think most people expect), and we are ANYWHERE CLOSE to requesting a cooling off period from the NMB, THEN management will get the message...LOUD AND CLEAR...from ALL PILOTS that we are ready, and have been for quite some time, to shut this place down. We have had enough of making every revolving door management stoolie into a multi-millionaire and creating corporate profits (and MASSIVE executive bonuses) from OUR decade of sacrifices.

Today, no-one is paying ANY attention to what we are saying here or on the other Forum, other than keeping an eye on whether there are any concerted actions being discussed.

When the time comes, remind me to get on a plane to DCA/IAD, because I want to walk arm in arm with you on the picket line. THAT message is THE ONLY ONE they care about, not what line pilots think about the actions of a few out of touch MEC members who think they are above having their actions questioned.

Fraternally and respectfully,

Neil
From my 'never been at the table' perspective, the company is still trying to figure out IF they want to negotiate with us and deliver a CBA or IF they want to stall and push us to the edge. We shouldn't be looking like a bunch of disorganized individuals who are busy shooting at each other. IMO, our collective stance is very much an issue now. Again, I don't know jack ****e, I'm just saying what appears to be common sense to me.

**edit addition: If we get to that point, I'll take you up on the picket line offer. I'll even come to ORD too!! Oh, and I'm not sure about the 'arm in arm' thing...people might talk :-)
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:37 PM
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They already do!!!
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:16 PM
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Everybody talks about unity until they see the details of the TA. Then they figure out they sold many, usually junior, down the river. If they want unity then they need to worry about all the pilots from top to bottom. I'm not talking about SAYING you are. Proof is in the actions. example...They talk about protecting furloughee rights but in the end they sell them out and we help with health insurance so we can feel better. Pathetic. Unity will only come if we try to be fair to everybody on both sides. ......and yes, i know some will b1tch no matter what.
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