HDQTRS in ORD........
02-04-2011, 02:10 AM
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02-04-2011, 06:31 AM
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02-04-2011, 07:43 AM
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1. We've done nothing but shrink in Denver, it's an expensive airport.
2. We've given a ton of our feed to the RJs.
3. United's RJ end of the concourse is a cramped, noisy, dirty disgrace, much like the F-Con in ORD. We're surely losing passengers to SWA and FRNT as a result.
4. No SWA passenger ever flew on an RJ. And FRNT's Airbi are even more comfortable than a guppy. PAX with no interest in loyalty programs will book a flight on a larger plane ten times before they'll book one on an RJ. I see steady passenger erosion as a result. Color me pessimist.
4. If fuel continues it's wild swings (and why won't it?) then eventually FNRT will succomb to SWA. They have been down to a few days operating cash how many times in the last 5 years?? SWA loves to move in, pick the low lying fruit and position themselves to feast on the carcass. Think BWI. This will allow them to increase their mass and that's not good for UAL/DEN.
5. International flying is best done from cities closer to the coasts. I recall reading that Tilton and Smisek have said that UAL wants to expand international ops. I can't see that in happening in DEN with EWR, IAD, LAX, HOU and SFO next to water, and ORD in the middle. Plus, United used to serve another (tiny) International airport in the New York area which could handle some EWR overflow. Nah...what am I smoking?
I hope I'm wrong. That's just the way I see it. Others smarter than I have already opined on this topic on the old board. Perhaps they will add their two cents.
2. We've given a ton of our feed to the RJs.
3. United's RJ end of the concourse is a cramped, noisy, dirty disgrace, much like the F-Con in ORD. We're surely losing passengers to SWA and FRNT as a result.
4. No SWA passenger ever flew on an RJ. And FRNT's Airbi are even more comfortable than a guppy. PAX with no interest in loyalty programs will book a flight on a larger plane ten times before they'll book one on an RJ. I see steady passenger erosion as a result. Color me pessimist.
4. If fuel continues it's wild swings (and why won't it?) then eventually FNRT will succomb to SWA. They have been down to a few days operating cash how many times in the last 5 years?? SWA loves to move in, pick the low lying fruit and position themselves to feast on the carcass. Think BWI. This will allow them to increase their mass and that's not good for UAL/DEN.
5. International flying is best done from cities closer to the coasts. I recall reading that Tilton and Smisek have said that UAL wants to expand international ops. I can't see that in happening in DEN with EWR, IAD, LAX, HOU and SFO next to water, and ORD in the middle. Plus, United used to serve another (tiny) International airport in the New York area which could handle some EWR overflow. Nah...what am I smoking?
I hope I'm wrong. That's just the way I see it. Others smarter than I have already opined on this topic on the old board. Perhaps they will add their two cents.
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02-04-2011, 08:07 AM
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See, that's the difference between you and I. You couldn't give a rats ass, whereas I do. When they spend an absolute fortune moving our ops from IAH to ORD, then you'll complain there's no money left for YOU to get that nice hefty pay raise. I'm just wondering why we have to shut our ops down and move everything to one of the most expensive places around. So far about the ONLY thing we're keeping is our paint job. Merger of "equals"? Hardly...
They would have to spend a fortune to move it all to IAH. So whats the difference?
02-04-2011, 09:59 AM
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1. We've done nothing but shrink in Denver, it's an expensive airport.
2. We've given a ton of our feed to the RJs.
3. United's RJ end of the concourse is a cramped, noisy, dirty disgrace, much like the F-Con in ORD. We're surely losing passengers to SWA and FRNT as a result.
4. No SWA passenger ever flew on an RJ. And FRNT's Airbi are even more comfortable than a guppy. PAX with no interest in loyalty programs will book a flight on a larger plane ten times before they'll book one on an RJ. I see steady passenger erosion as a result. Color me pessimist.
4. If fuel continues it's wild swings (and why won't it?) then eventually FNRT will succomb to SWA. They have been down to a few days operating cash how many times in the last 5 years?? SWA loves to move in, pick the low lying fruit and position themselves to feast on the carcass. Think BWI. This will allow them to increase their mass and that's not good for UAL/DEN.
5. International flying is best done from cities closer to the coasts. I recall reading that Tilton and Smisek have said that UAL wants to expand international ops. I can't see that in happening in DEN with EWR, IAD, LAX, HOU and SFO next to water, and ORD in the middle. Plus, United used to serve another (tiny) International airport in the New York area which could handle some EWR overflow. Nah...what am I smoking?
I hope I'm wrong. That's just the way I see it. Others smarter than I have already opined on this topic on the old board. Perhaps they will add their two cents.
2. We've given a ton of our feed to the RJs.
3. United's RJ end of the concourse is a cramped, noisy, dirty disgrace, much like the F-Con in ORD. We're surely losing passengers to SWA and FRNT as a result.
4. No SWA passenger ever flew on an RJ. And FRNT's Airbi are even more comfortable than a guppy. PAX with no interest in loyalty programs will book a flight on a larger plane ten times before they'll book one on an RJ. I see steady passenger erosion as a result. Color me pessimist.
4. If fuel continues it's wild swings (and why won't it?) then eventually FNRT will succomb to SWA. They have been down to a few days operating cash how many times in the last 5 years?? SWA loves to move in, pick the low lying fruit and position themselves to feast on the carcass. Think BWI. This will allow them to increase their mass and that's not good for UAL/DEN.
5. International flying is best done from cities closer to the coasts. I recall reading that Tilton and Smisek have said that UAL wants to expand international ops. I can't see that in happening in DEN with EWR, IAD, LAX, HOU and SFO next to water, and ORD in the middle. Plus, United used to serve another (tiny) International airport in the New York area which could handle some EWR overflow. Nah...what am I smoking?
I hope I'm wrong. That's just the way I see it. Others smarter than I have already opined on this topic on the old board. Perhaps they will add their two cents.
02-04-2011, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by strfyr51
Because THAT'S the Deal that Jeff BOUGHT! Didn't you READ the Aviation week article? He SAID it was the Deal TILTON offered him "Take it or LEAVE IT", There WAS no Negotiation
02-04-2011, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
3. United's RJ end of the concourse is a cramped, noisy, dirty disgrace, much like the F-Con in ORD. We're surely losing passengers to SWA and FRNT as a result.
02-04-2011, 12:13 PM
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Father Guido,
Are you saying that there is plenty of it, or a lack of plenty? Seems to me that O&D would be a dwindling enterprise and that our mass is propping the loads up. But, I'm a guy with a half empty glass of bourbon in front of me, as opposed to one half full.
Are you saying that there is plenty of it, or a lack of plenty? Seems to me that O&D would be a dwindling enterprise and that our mass is propping the loads up. But, I'm a guy with a half empty glass of bourbon in front of me, as opposed to one half full.
02-04-2011, 01:20 PM
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I assume you are living the chaste life of the three B's........Bourbon, Boats, and Beeyotches.
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