DaveNelson

So, just out of curiosity, how do you propose to do this? If UAL still has people on the property who crossed the line in 1985, how do you think their addition to the mix of CAL pilots is going to perform this miraculous deed?

bearcat

this is flame

sovt

Dave how did you earn that B at the end of your ID number?

SoCalGuy

I can tell you how approx. 90+% of the CAL guys/gals got those "lettered sufix's"

DaveNelson

If you're bold enough to address me my my real name, would you care to quit hiding behind a pseudonyme yourself? It reminds me of the courage shown by the guy who anonymously expressed his disagreement with the way I voted on election day. It also reminds me of the courage of those who, without revealing their own identity, post anonymous lists on the Internet.

But, while you're debating the wisdom of revealing who you are, you might check out the date that ALPA pulled its picket line. You also might check the dates that those in the last three classes prior to the Order and Award flew their first revenue trips in comparison to the back-to-work agreement.

intrepidcv11

It happens. You just have to remember cuss out the window under your breath and count the minutes down till it's over. Their time and any shred of influence is rapidly passing despite President Walrus giving them 5 more years to exist.

ewrbasedpilot

[QUOTE=DaveNelson;939908]....... It reminds me of the courage shown by the guy who anonymously expressed his disagreement with the way I voted on election day. QUOTE]

Dave...........my sister lived in the Woodlands and was the only person in her neighborhood that was a democrat. Good on you for showing your hand. I'm still amazed at the number of pilots who voted for GWB and his dad since they're VERY GOOD freinds of one of our WORST ENEMY'S.......Frank Lorenzo. That should tell you something right there. (Sorry about the political drift, but we're so worried about calling out the scabs, yet many are voting for Presidents that support scabs/union busting to the hilt........go figure).

ewrbasedpilot

I agree with you 100%. I used to get upset about some of the guys I flew with when I was an FO.........until a friend of mine put it in perspective for me. He said, "son, you only have to be with them for a couple of days, so grit your teeth and make the best of it. There's no sense in getting worked up over someone you may never see or fly with again". That's the way I look at it now.

DaveNelson

Yeah, that's my pet peeve, also. They make themselves out to be fierce trade unionists when it comes to their own particular collective bargaining agreement, but when the subject turns to politics, any number of motivations: guns, gays, taxes, military, abortion, immigration,global warming, prayer in the schools, etc., results in their support of politicians who talk about unions being a thing of the past, and who vote always on the side of industry.

They'll be the first ones, at the end of a trip, to go shopping at Wal-Mart still wearing their uniform replete with union pin. Try organizing a union at that place.

How many other picket lines has ALPA crossed in its history? The ALPA pilots at CAL, those fierce warriors who battled Lorenzo, crossed a flight attendant picket line in late 70s or early 80s. How did the other unions at Northwest react to the 2005 mechanics' strike?

AxlF16

Would you have been happier if he used DaveNelson instead of Dave??

Don't worry, I won't get my panties in a bunch if you refer to me as axl