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Old 02-01-2011, 10:05 AM
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Never thought of him as an oil guy, just an ax man, can do what he does in any business.
He was only in the oil business for 30 years, not much experience there.
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:15 AM
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Yes I realize that but what he knows about hedging who knows. Tryst me it makes me sick whoeever blew the hedges what now seems like a regular basis. I guess he must be a better ax man than an oil man.
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Obviously the cost of fuel reflects a profit or no profit!

And again. Not my or your job to worry about. We have a different job to do. If Smisdcik can't do his, don't come to me to try and fix the problem. He's paid to run the operation, were paid to fly. FUPM!!!
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:09 PM
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And again. Not my or your job to worry about. We have a different job to do. If Smisdcik can't do his, don't come to me to try and fix the problem. He's paid to run the operation, were paid to fly. FUPM!!!
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:11 PM
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Former express pilot?
Should I take a different stance being one? I'm a CAL/UAL pilot. Are you saying your not tired of being bent over? It's your job to run the airline and fly the plane? Former 83-84 hire?
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:48 AM
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I asked a simple question, that's all. I guess I had the impression that we were discussing the current high cost of oil and potential effects on our industry. Oil prices headed up!

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Old 02-03-2011, 02:06 PM
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I asked a simple question, that's all. I guess I had the impression that we were discussing the current high cost of oil and potential effects on our industry. Oil prices headed up!

Not trying not to knock you. Just really ****ed when mgmt starts the fuel going up rant. Reminds me of a political reeducation camp. If fuel goes up, that's the cost of doing business. Jeff and his "team" are responsible for ensuring a viable business plan and reliable airline with every problem that surfaces. When these "problems" occur, mgmt always seems to bring this to us as if it's our problem to fix, usually with concessions/reductions/lowered benefits, etc. Jeff fixes the business problems, we fly the planes. Doesn't get any simpler than that. Fuel is a business cost. Always has been, always will be. Pilots fit in this same category. We are a cost to running this airline. We have done our part to help offset mgmt's problems. We are not mgmt's continuous atm that the use to offset other business cost increases. The cost of a pilot is the cost of a pilot. This is where we differ from mgmt's view.

So how do you get express pilot of out this?
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Old 02-05-2011, 05:16 PM
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Former 83-84 hire?

I believe he's early '84. What did Kero cost in '84 Joe?
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jetjock257
Oh fer St. Pete's! Don't make everthing do daggum COMPLICATED. (You SURE you're not an Airbus guy???) TILTON was the old boss, SMISEK is the new boss. Here come da new boss, SAME AS THE OLD BOSS.

SMILTON. Aint no rocket science involved.
Just call him Mr. FLIBS and make it easy to distinguish between the eras.
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