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Old 01-24-2011, 02:32 PM
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........ The front end of the guppy is an outdated cramped little hell hole not to mention it's loud. I mean we are talking 1950's technology here. It's simply a 707 nose plugged into the front of a smaller airframe.

You've ovboiusly never flown an EMB product.
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CAL did not PAY for the data on the new gens. It's there. Same reason why we don't simply flip the switch in the avonics bay for "true" glass. Costs something like 40-50K per aircraft.
I once asked an instructor: "What prevents the MD-88 from doing a coupled single-engine ILS to an autoland?" He said: "It will do one just fine, but we didn't buy the certification for that maneuver."
I suppose that maintaining the certification would have required periodic performance of the maneuver in each airplane, which would be a questionable idea with passengers on board.
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:40 PM
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If you remember correctly strfyr51 UAl pilots had a huge influence on the flight deck design, and ergonomics on the 777 as we were the launch customer.
So now I know where to lay the blame for yokes instead of sidesticks.

We also influenced many seemingly petty things like which way the door flight deck door opened.
I was about 50/50 for getting that thing right on the first push/pull of the trip.

The front end of the guppy is an outdated cramped little hell hole not to mention it's loud. I mean we are talking 1950's technology here.
All true but, unlike me, at 50 it'll be faster, longer and have more endurance than it had at 20.
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You've ovboiusly never flown an EMB product.
Thank god. And I never want to!

So now I know where to lay the blame for yokes instead of sidesticks.
That's the rumor!

I was about 50/50 for getting that thing right on the first push/pull of the trip.
Me too, still!! Two years on the bus then going back to 757 it took me about 6 months to figure out how to open the door form the inside. You can pull as hard as you want it just won't open.

All true but, unlike me, at 50 it'll be faster, longer and have more endurance than it had at 20.
Tell me about it.
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Boeing is really becoming a "liability" with their planes. The 787 is becoming a nightmare for them with delay after delay after delay (and they laughed at Airbus because of A-380 delays?). The 737-900ER is having a tailstrike problem since it's speeds are so critical on landing, (2 knots below ref and you're setting yourself up for a tailstrike......I know........already happened to me, and it was a SMOOTH landing!) and we're no longer allowed to use flaps "2" since Boeing didn't do any testing and therefore has no data for us to use it! Interesting, with THOUSANDS of B-737's out there, and they put a flap selection that you can't use. I'm also getting tired of the "cubby hole" for our luggage in the cockpit. Haven't the Boeing engineers figured out that we actually OVERNIGHT in the damn thing yet and NEED SPACE for our luggage?
Hmmm...strange, never happened to me and I didn't hear it was a major issue.
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Hmmm...strange, never happened to me and I didn't hear it was a major issue.
I would think a major tail strike issue would be the subject of pilot bulletins, training bulletins, monthly fleet newsletters, etc. Haven't seen any of those.

I fly the 900ER thinking "fly it like your grandmother with arthritis and not move anything too fast!"
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Originally Posted by scrapdog
Hmmm...strange, never happened to me and I didn't hear it was a major issue.
It was strange to me too since I have over 10,000 hours in Boeing products and had never seen anything like it in flying them for 15 years. Actually, it was my FO that was flying, and the whole thing took probably two seconds..........neither one of us saw it coming, and there's not much you can do to "save the day" either. We had 7 or so in a two week timeframe. (Ours didn't compress the tail strut either, so it wasn't considered a "major" strike). You can't tell me that "all of a sudden" our pilots don't know how to fly a B-737. (BTW, their WERE bulletins out on it). I've learned to just come in a couple of knots faster and make the landings flatter. Apparently just TWO knots (according to our training department) slow at touchdown is enough to cause the nose to float up due to the exceptionally high deployment of the speedbrakes. Be careful out there!
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
I would think a major tail strike issue would be the subject of pilot bulletins, training bulletins, monthly fleet newsletters, etc. Haven't seen any of those.

I fly the 900ER thinking "fly it like your grandmother with arthritis and not move anything too fast!"
Better go back again and review your bulletins.........they ARE there. BTW...I fly it the SAME way!
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
CAL did not PAY for the data on the new gens. It's there. Same reason why we don't simply flip the switch in the avonics bay for "true" glass. Costs something like 40-50K per aircraft.
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Flip a switch in the electronics bay for True GLASS?? Please explain..???? Aren't theN G. CAL 737's FANS equipped?? I'm sure that cannot be. Hell the A320's are 13yers OLD and many of them are FANS equipped with ATSU's rather than just ACARS and uprated MCDU's With provisions for 3 mcdu's and dual radars. Did they only upgrade the 800's and 900 ER's to fly ETOPS?? Heck! As BAD as UAL management has been over the last 15 years We've at LEAST not knowingly shorted the cockpit equipment and when they did? It usually got corrected. I know we made the mistake of not installing the second Flight managment computer on our 737-322/522's and it came back to "bite us in the Butt" so many times that the planning guys said they'd never make that mistake again!
They said from now on our airplanes would be ordered "Fully Dressed".
We had an incident not that long ago where a 747 bound for Hong Kong nearly Taxied over max Gross weight and the VP OPS was Aghast to find out we didn't have the Gross Weight display capability like Singapore and Lufthansa had. We took nearly a 35 minute delay until the baggage /cargo and Fuel was recalulated to find we were in fact under max taxi weight. I thought Kolshak was going to have a Coronary/Conniption FIT right there in the OCC. That woulda' been something to see because VP's don't usually Have "Conniption fits"! (Unless they're REALLY "put upon")
Since he was always trying to be so "COOL" I'd have paid GOOD money to see that!
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
I would think a major tail strike issue would be the subject of pilot bulletins, training bulletins, monthly fleet newsletters, etc. Haven't seen any of those.

I fly the 900ER thinking "fly it like your grandmother with arthritis and not move anything too fast!"
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Is the -900 rotate angle limited to under 9deg?? I read that n the Boeing Guide recently. Some Airline in asia ground the Pressure bulkhead off at the lower skin leaving Malaysia. and they started using a flaps 2 takeoff to gain more lift at a slower rotate speed and changed their Power checks from 100 back to 80 kias.(Not really sure what that accomplished. except an earlier alert to VR and VLOF??)
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