Greater international scope for 40% pay raise
01-05-2011, 04:29 PM
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Greater international scope for 40% pay raise
Latest proposal from management is Southwest plus a few percent pay scale in exchange for liberal international scope. If this goes to vote it could pass. Mangement just says they want to add "a couple" of new joint ventures, code shares, alliances, etc, like they said they wanted to add "a few" 70 seaters. The plan is to bring these new "agreements" within the next 2 years as the retirements start - therefore no growth as all new international flying will be outsourced. Keep the 400s a few more years and then retire them and cancel wide body orders, shrink the airline to about 8000 pilots - makes for a great balance sheet. The pay raise saves the company a ton of money in the long run. Don't know what the verbage in the contract will look like, but read carefully. This could truly be the end of the profession.
01-05-2011, 05:01 PM
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Latest proposal from management is Southwest plus a few percent pay scale in exchange for liberal international scope. If this goes to vote it could pass. Mangement just says they want to add "a couple" of new joint ventures, code shares, alliances, etc, like they said they wanted to add "a few" 70 seaters. The plan is to bring these new "agreements" within the next 2 years as the retirements start - therefore no growth as all new international flying will be outsourced. Keep the 400s a few more years and then retire them and cancel wide body orders, shrink the airline to about 8000 pilots - makes for a great balance sheet. The pay raise saves the company a ton of money in the long run. Don't know what the verbage in the contract will look like, but read carefully. This could truly be the end of the profession.
And where did you get this???
Please post the source or it is just more flame.
01-05-2011, 06:27 PM
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01-05-2011, 06:39 PM
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Latest proposal from management is Southwest plus a few percent pay scale in exchange for liberal international scope. If this goes to vote it could pass. Mangement just says they want to add "a couple" of new joint ventures, code shares, alliances, etc, like they said they wanted to add "a few" 70 seaters. The plan is to bring these new "agreements" within the next 2 years as the retirements start - therefore no growth as all new international flying will be outsourced. Keep the 400s a few more years and then retire them and cancel wide body orders, shrink the airline to about 8000 pilots - makes for a great balance sheet. The pay raise saves the company a ton of money in the long run. Don't know what the verbage in the contract will look like, but read carefully. This could truly be the end of the profession.
01-05-2011, 06:53 PM
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Latest proposal from management is Southwest plus a few percent pay scale in exchange for liberal international scope. If this goes to vote it could pass. Mangement just says they want to add "a couple" of new joint ventures, code shares, alliances, etc, like they said they wanted to add "a few" 70 seaters. The plan is to bring these new "agreements" within the next 2 years as the retirements start - therefore no growth as all new international flying will be outsourced. Keep the 400s a few more years and then retire them and cancel wide body orders, shrink the airline to about 8000 pilots - makes for a great balance sheet. The pay raise saves the company a ton of money in the long run. Don't know what the verbage in the contract will look like, but read carefully. This could truly be the end of the profession.
If they want to propose THAT?? You'd Sure beter watch your Underwear becaise they're going to take them OFF you with your Belt Cinched!!
Gotta ask your self.. Out source it to WHOM?? Answer?? Lufthansa Group. Then what's REALLY in it for any of YOU ASIDE from Money?? What United Giveth in one hand? They taketh AWAY in the OTHER hand.
All of this CAL 70 seat business was to get you guys eye "off the Ball" so they can run this FAST BALL down and in on you.. BEWARE!!
01-06-2011, 10:06 AM
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Once the TA is sent to the pilots, the clock starts ticking on certain mandated SLI performance. The SLI clock starts regardless of if the TA is passed or not.
So, you would expect the MECs to send a TA that is everything to everybody (best chance of passing) rather than having a TA be rejected to validate a negotiating position.
Can you imagine? "we closed the 70 gap, all we had to do is give away the wide body flying". Me neither.......
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