UAL/CAL ARBITOR ruling submitted on 70 seater
01-08-2011, 06:19 PM
#111
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What are you talking about? ALL they did was change from a CO designator to a UA one. We won the arbitration, but STILL ended up with the 70 seaters doing EXACTLY what we were trying to prevent. We got a "win" in semantics only. So in reality, what have we "won" according to your theory? 
They will probably keep flying it even though it's going to lose a TON of money just because they want to prove a point. Typical stupid management decision. But they lost. They know it, and we know it. If they want to waste their 70's flying around from IAH on a UAX only code and 15-20 people, go right ahead! It's like a scene from Forrest Gump.
01-08-2011, 09:06 PM
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Here's a hint: try visiting continental.com and booking a flight. 
The viability of all the 70-seat UAX flights into CO hubs are predicated on CO connecting traffic. It's kind of hard to fill the airplane (at the desired yield) when a large conduit of that traffic suddenly disappears.
The viability of all the 70-seat UAX flights into CO hubs are predicated on CO connecting traffic. It's kind of hard to fill the airplane (at the desired yield) when a large conduit of that traffic suddenly disappears.
01-08-2011, 09:19 PM
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They will probably keep flying it even though it's going to lose a TON of money just because they want to prove a point. Typical stupid management decision. But they lost. They know it, and we know it. If they want to waste their 70's flying around from IAH on a UAX only code and 15-20 people, go right ahead! It's like a scene from Forrest Gump.
01-09-2011, 06:36 AM
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Dignity and respect towards our pilot group seems to have been completely thrown out the window, and from what I'm starting to see/hear, he may have made a gross error in judgement by trying to see how far he could go with this. Nothing like p*ssing your workforce off...................
Pilots are like cats --you can't heard 'em-- so the union always appreciates management's help in unification and motivation.
01-09-2011, 07:07 AM
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What are you talking about? ALL they did was change from a CO designator to a UA one. We won the arbitration, but STILL ended up with the 70 seaters doing EXACTLY what we were trying to prevent. We got a "win" in semantics only. So in reality, what have we "won" according to your theory?
Hmm, other than negotiations for the new JCBA and new combined scope, where in the grievance were we trying to "prevent" UAX 70-seaters from operating? Serious question because our independent scope clause cannot dictate UAL and UAX flights, only CO coded flights.
01-09-2011, 10:33 AM
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01-09-2011, 10:36 AM
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01-09-2011, 10:37 AM
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