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Old 11-18-2010, 05:47 AM
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I'm out in the middle of nowhere with limited Internet and no Transition agreement; is the following addressed in that document? This would be difficult to stomach if I were a UAL furloughed pilot. I know they will be
Hired at CAL, but that is AFTER all the CAL pilots are recalled, some of whom will be doing this flying.

CHICAGO, Nov. 17, 2010 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines today announced that it will begin daily nonstop flights between Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD) and Ft. Lauderdale (FLL) and West Palm Beach (PBI), Fla.; and between Denver International Airport (DEN) and Ft. Lauderdale on Feb. 17, 2011. *

"These flights will offer Chicago and Denver travelers convenient access to the beaches of South Florida," said Jim Ferea, Continental's managing director of domestic planning.*"They will also give South Floridians additional options for reaching the Mile High City with connections to Colorado's world-class ski resorts."

The new flights complement Continental's existing service to Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach from its hubs in New York, Houston and Cleveland and Continental Connection service, operated by Gulfstream, from Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach to destinations in Florida and the Bahamas.
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The rumor is that UAL will be picking up some Latin and S.American (maybe even Asian) flying out of IAH. I think the issue is addressed in the TPA and as long as block hours remain at a constant ratio, they're in compliance.

This was bound to happen sooner or later!
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Tell you what you guys can have these dinky Florida turns if we keep both EWR-TLV's. I can promise you a 400 will be on that sooner rather then later...
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
Tell you what you guys can have these dinky Florida turns if we keep both EWR-TLV's. I can promise you a 400 will be on that sooner rather then later...
Will be nice when the posts start sounding like one company instead of 2 seperate groups fighting over every route.

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Originally Posted by tailwheel48
The rumor is that UAL will be picking up some Latin and S.American (maybe even Asian) flying out of IAH. I think the issue is addressed in the TPA and as long as block hours remain at a constant ratio, they're in compliance.

This was bound to happen sooner or later!
Problem begins when CAL continues to take delivery of aircraft before the merger is complete. How much flying can you continue to swap if CAL is adding block hours and adding pilots while UAL is not? This will become rather uneven rather quickly. The only route I have heard was IAH-LIM.
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Problem begins when CAL continues to take delivery of aircraft before the merger is complete. How much flying can you continue to swap if CAL is adding block hours and adding pilots while UAL is not? This will become rather uneven rather quickly. The only route I have heard was IAH-LIM.
Unfortunately the merger is complete, we have to live with it. I think you mean until the SOC/JCBA?
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Originally Posted by syd111
Will be nice when the posts start sounding like one company instead of 2 seperate groups fighting over every route.
Exactly. How is that JCBA doing?
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Originally Posted by syd111
Will be nice when the posts start sounding like one company instead of 2 seperate groups fighting over every route.
Kind of like he said/she said...
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Seems to me the real issue is this route swapping allows Jeffy to
take the gains of "synergies" without conceding anything to our respective labor groups.
Lets stay focused on getting a great Jcba (capital J for "Joint")
and then there will be plenty of new flying opportunities for all of us

P.S.
Thanks to all the great UAL crews on my recent commutes to work.
Its nice to have a civil discussion of all of these issues, and makes me feel like we can eventually enjoy working with one another
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Originally Posted by Speedtape
Seems to me the real issue is this route swapping allows Jeffy to
take the gains of "synergies" without conceding anything to our respective labor groups.
Lets stay focused on getting a great Jcba (capital J for "Joint")
and then there will be plenty of new flying opportunities for all of us

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Thanks to all the great UAL crews on my recent commutes to work.
Its nice to have a civil discussion of all of these issues, and makes me feel like we can eventually enjoy working with one another
That's exactly what I was thinking as well.

Glad you are finding our pilots hospitable. I've found the same with the CAL pilots. Very gracious.
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