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Old 10-27-2010, 04:38 PM
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The following from the daily news. Not a pilot issue, but does it affect pilots?


The International Association of Machinists (IAM), which represents CO flight attendants, announced today that its membership voted to reject the tentative collective bargaining agreement it reached with CO.

We will continue to seek agreements with all of our unions that recognize the interests of our company and our co-workers.
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:39 AM
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$1.25 an hour pay raise with an additional 6% spread over three years...

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I agree. Pound sand. After the latest quarterly earnings, I think the FAs are not going to fall for that nonsense.

The mechanics have a TA as well and talking with them I doubt that it will pass either, esp. since their vote is now after the quarterly results came out. They are being offered 2.5% as well.

The IAM seems extremely corrupt when it comes to their contract process.
They have to vote in person. They have no access to an online voting site like we do. The IAM goes out of their way to make it more difficult for their members to vote. They say it's because they don't trust online voting, but yet FAs have said the election people were doing all the selling they could for this contract instead of just letting FAs vote.

I hear FAs complaining about their tactics, but I don't understand why they haven't done something about it, esp. when it comes to voting. Read the information in the privacy of your own home or hotel room. Vote in private without outside influence.

BTW, I think I read there were 9230 eligible voters. 61% voted (5630).
55% of those voted NO (3096). So 33.5% of the group decided the fate of their contract. Glad it was voted down, but still the IAM contributes to poor turn out.
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I talked to a couple of F/A's who told me the union officials were there in the crew rooms running the voting. Before they voted, the union officials asked if they had any questions or anything that could be cleared up. One F/A told me she told the guy to go to hell...and that she could make up her own mind. Good for her.

Glad they turned it down. Let this be a lesson to our pilots not to accept the substandard contract.
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Those numbers, if true, are a pathetic proposal. Glad they aren't playing.
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$1.25 an hour pay raise with an additional 6% spread over three years...

Go pound sand
However, even as bad as it was, it was still probably light years ahead of what UAL FA's make currently. What the CAL FA's are so afraid of is losing the ability to fly 200 hours a month like some do. UAL flight attendants are limited to something like 80 hours a month. Will be VERY interesting to see these two groups together.............
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200 hrs/month?! JHFC, get a life!
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it lost by 55% with only 60% of the eligible fas voting? pathetic, now with this vote, mgmnt knows exactly what they need to get their coveted 50.1% majority.
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
However, even as bad as it was, it was still probably light years ahead of what UAL FA's make currently. What the CAL FA's are so afraid of is losing the ability to fly 200 hours a month like some do. UAL flight attendants are limited to something like 80 hours a month. Will be VERY interesting to see these two groups together.............
Constipated again eh? Now why does ewrbasedpilot want a big fukn raise, job security and QOL again?
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
However, even as bad as it was, it was still probably light years ahead of what UAL FA's make currently. What the CAL FA's are so afraid of is losing the ability to fly 200 hours a month like some do. UAL flight attendants are limited to something like 80 hours a month. Will be VERY interesting to see these two groups together.............

And the ability go for days off vs pay is going to be a concern for the CAL pilots as well.
Right now UA has the lower pay and the restrictions (aka QOL) on how much you want to fly.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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