Magenta Line - Monday, October 25, 2010
10-28-2010, 07:38 AM
#111
Need More Callouts
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Unbridled Enthusiasm
Posts: 2,143
I am a CAL pilot and I know some of our execs, not just mid level managers in the training dept... We are keeping the airbuses and taking the orders as of this week... the 350 will show up and so will more airbus stuff... We need to quit worrying about what is going to happen based on our beliefs and start supporting our union and get everyone on the same page and stop this crap of he said, she said, we will do this, we will do that... We have to be shoulder to shoulder... We are one... Division will not work here... It is very entertaining to read that CAL will do this and UAL will do that coming from pilots... We dont know what we are going to do except, we are going to protect scope to the best of our abilities, increase our working abilities, pay, benefits, etc... Let's worry about things that we can control rather than wasting more f'n time and energy on stuff we hav NO CONTROL over...
off the soap box, rant off...
Hotwing
737 FO CAL. (United Continental Holdings)
Any takers?
10-28-2010, 08:10 AM
#112
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: The GF of FUPM
Posts: 3,073
Intrepid and Ewrflyr,
Thanks for the measured responses. I figured that there was an angle or two which my processor couldn't grasp.
I'm a big fan of the 400 even though I'll probably never fly it. Yes it can lose money at a furious pace in bad times, but it can also print it when times are good, like right now. When I was a new hire maggot they told us that every morning United put $1 Million in the bank when the 400 left Chicago for the Orient. That's a lot of fudge, and can go along way to defray fuel spikes and still make money. While ETOPS is pretty cool, I'd just rather point that mother straight at the destination and go take my nap. But that's just me.
Additionally to those who say that the plane will be gone in a few years I say not so fast. Considering what a behemoth this airline is about to become (particularly in the Pacific) I won't be surprised if the plane sticks around for quite a while. "Ocean big, plane fast" And in the end, gut 'em, fill them with rubber dog$hit & kewpie dolls and WE fly them for another 20 years. We will certainly have the network to justify a freight op and the need for lift can only grow. Isn't Scott Dolan sticking around??
I still think it should pay more.
Additionally I want there to be a big fat plug of guys on that thing when I finally have the stones to hold the 777. After all, its all about me right??
As far as UAL MEC wanting to eliminate banding to further our position in the SLI (I don't know is that true??? I have read it here and I am not privy to what's going on behind the green door). IF they are, well, good for them. I suspect the CAL MEC is working just as diligently to exploit CAL's traits and strengths for the comparison.
Beers.
Thanks for the measured responses. I figured that there was an angle or two which my processor couldn't grasp.
I'm a big fan of the 400 even though I'll probably never fly it. Yes it can lose money at a furious pace in bad times, but it can also print it when times are good, like right now. When I was a new hire maggot they told us that every morning United put $1 Million in the bank when the 400 left Chicago for the Orient. That's a lot of fudge, and can go along way to defray fuel spikes and still make money. While ETOPS is pretty cool, I'd just rather point that mother straight at the destination and go take my nap. But that's just me.
Additionally to those who say that the plane will be gone in a few years I say not so fast. Considering what a behemoth this airline is about to become (particularly in the Pacific) I won't be surprised if the plane sticks around for quite a while. "Ocean big, plane fast" And in the end, gut 'em, fill them with rubber dog$hit & kewpie dolls and WE fly them for another 20 years. We will certainly have the network to justify a freight op and the need for lift can only grow. Isn't Scott Dolan sticking around??
I still think it should pay more.
Additionally I want there to be a big fat plug of guys on that thing when I finally have the stones to hold the 777. After all, its all about me right??As far as UAL MEC wanting to eliminate banding to further our position in the SLI (I don't know is that true??? I have read it here and I am not privy to what's going on behind the green door). IF they are, well, good for them. I suspect the CAL MEC is working just as diligently to exploit CAL's traits and strengths for the comparison.
Beers.
10-28-2010, 08:10 AM
#113
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 645
"we were told that the United MEC had still not agreed to the compensation proposal." What does that even mean? Isn't the compensation proposal supposed to be agreed on by "both" MEC's before presenting it to the company?
10-29-2010, 12:28 PM
#120
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: 737 CAPT
Posts: 1,905
On the last conference call, our MEC chairman said that the compensation proposal had been worked out by the JNC. It was passed to the individual MECs to approve before it would be presented to management. Jay said the CAL MEC had approved the compensation proposal but the UAL MEC had still not voted to accept it. He did say it would all work itself out. This was two weeks ago.
I have not heard if the UAL MEC has agreed to the proposal. However, if the proposal has been put on the table to management this week, then they obviously must have agreed to it. We just don't have official word that the compensation proposal has been presented for us to know the status.
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